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ER-4B Versus ER-4S, Senn HE90

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I'm wondering if the "B" is a higher resistance than the "S"... I can't picture it being a different armature.
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Remember, graphs aren't everything, and esp. in this case. The ER4B is meant for bin aural tracks only, so "regular" music (aka 99% of music) may sound "off" through the ER4B. Your best bet is to stick with an ER4P/S.

EDIT: For What It's Worth (FWIW), I've owned the ER4P/S, and the bass seriously takes the backseat once anything serious decides to show up (aka the midrange), and although the ER4P/S is very analytical, it always made me think I was listening to a recording, even if the album was live. Simply put, it never gave me the sense of realism, only a digital emotion.
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I owned both concurrently, and still own the 4S. The 4B was not what I would call harsh, but I found its treble focus very distracting. It was as if you could hear the rattle of every bean in the maracas, the strike of every tine of the wire drum brush. Fascinating, in its way, but for me it was an impediment to enjoying the music itself. For my tastes the ER-4S is just right, and few would call it lacking in upper treble.
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I've currently got the P with S adapter, along with the B's. The B's have better resolving power than even the S (if you can believe that). The whole "binaural" thing is quite misleading. They're just another IEM. When I switch from the S to the B, what I notice immediately is how much "leaner" and "brighter" the B's initially seem.

After my ears have adjusted to their sound signature, I am always totally blown away by how they deliver the music to me. The B's are a precision tool for listening to music. If you want to analyze it, it presents everything that's there (sometimes not a good thing, depending on recordings), but if you want to relax and just listen, I'm able to do that, also.

I feel most anyone who prefers the ER4S sound signature would like the B's even better.

My $.02.
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if you understood about the difference of ER-4B vs ER-4S, you would know the graphs are wrong. the 4B doesn't take into account the equalization applied to modern recordings assuming there is mids/treble roll off in speakers in general due to air and how speakers sound. as a result, the 4S would have less in the mids/treble, which is the opposite of the graphs.

you can see it here:

Etymotic Research, Inc. - ER-4 - Which ER•4 is Right for You
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There is no big mystery here. The only difference between the 4B and the 4S is that the 4B has slightly more treble in the 10kHz area. Other than that, they are identical.

I have owned both, and while I did not find the ER4Bs to be particularly harsh, the extra treble was noticeable and distracting and I eventually had them converted back to 4Ss.
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I should get some pop-corn, it is always fun to watch people go headphone shopping using HeadRoom frequency response graphs...
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I should get some pop-corn, it is always fun to watch people go headphone shopping using HeadRoom frequency response graphs...
Fun for you, facepalming for me.
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I have owned both, and while I did not find the ER4Bs to be particularly harsh, the extra treble was noticeable and distracting and I eventually had them converted back to 4Ss.
Piccolo has superbly summarized exactly my own experience.

I think 4B vs. 4S is not a matter of harshness, but of emphasis. For me, the 4B overemphasized a certain portion of the music, at the expense of the whole. For someone else - though I suspect a minority - this could be a very enjoyable signature.

What I had hoped for, btw, when I bought the 4B, was a sort of SA5000 type of treble extension, coupled with the 4S' all-around excellence in other areas. That's not what it turned out to be at all. Instead it was, as Piccolo sort of put it, a 4S with a - to me - distracting treble emphasis.
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