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post #46 of 55
8/2/08 at 2:40pm
The Peter Gabriel album I remember sounding bad on CD was the first solo album. But it sounded bad on LP and in the audiophile LP release too. The early digital Peter Gabriel albums sound fine on the first release CDs I have. They're thick and phasey with no clear soundstage, but that's the way he likes to mix them.

I would bet that if an LP rerelease of a DDD recording sounds better, it's because they went back and did some noodling with the mix.

See ya
Steve
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post #47 of 55
8/2/08 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Meliboeus View Post
i didn't want to start a new thread since i have a problem similar to the OP of this one...

95% of my vinyls sound very goor with little surface noise, almost unaudible...but EVERY ONE i have ...has a heavy decrease in quality in the last 2-3 minutes, the central part of the record around the label...since all my records have this problem, maybe it is something wrong with my turntable ? i mount the factory cartridge. the turntable is...very old but it's strange.. vinyl plays perfectly unless the last part...
It sounds like what you are describing is called 'inner groove distortion.' This is something that is caused by the tonearm not being parallel to the groove of the album. When you mount a cartridge, you need to use an alignment tool to set up the angle of the cartridge in order to minimize this effect. If you look online, there are alignment grids that can be printed out, and then placed on the turntable to do this. Also there are alignment protractors that can be purchased.

The shape of the stylus also has an effect on this. A conical stylus minimizes this, but at the expense of detail. An elliptical stylus provides better detail, but are more sensitive to mis-alignment.

I'd take a look at your alignment and see if things improve with an adjustment.
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post #48 of 55
8/2/08 at 6:47pm
i know...but the cartridge is not mounted on a headshell with screws, it is an integrated one...( i ordered a new cart with headshell but it is yet to arrive ) ...so it can't be adjusted in any way....however, it is for sure something with the turntable, not the records
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post #49 of 55
8/2/08 at 10:35pm
Aha: I learn something new every day here.
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post #50 of 55
8/3/08 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by Meliboeus View Post
i know...but the cartridge is not mounted on a headshell with screws, it is an integrated one...( i ordered a new cart with headshell but it is yet to arrive ) ...so it can't be adjusted in any way....however, it is for sure something with the turntable, not the records
Well, if it is not adjustable, and you want to keep the turntable, then maybe a conical stylus is the way to go if that is an option.
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post #51 of 55
8/3/08 at 9:54pm
Or, the inner grooves are just worn from having previously been played on a poor or maladjusted turntable. I get that a lot on LPs from the 50s that were played with heavy tracking forces. However, I also found that some albums that had a lot of distortion on loud passages from being played many many times almost magically played with MUCH less distortion when I upgraded to my first good turntable.
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post #52 of 55
8/4/08 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by zowie View Post
Or, the inner grooves are just worn from having previously been played on a poor or maladjusted turntable. I get that a lot on LPs from the 50s that were played with heavy tracking forces.
I would have thought this as well, but Meliboeus said it was happening on every album that was played, even the ones with no other signs of wear. This is why it sounded more like an alignment issue.

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However, I also found that some albums that had a lot of distortion on loud passages from being played many many times almost magically played with MUCH less distortion when I upgraded to my first good turntable.
This is so true. A good table with a properly set up cartridge does wonders with older pressings.
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post #53 of 55
8/4/08 at 1:39pm
Some records had inner groove distortion even when they were brand new. It was a bigger problem with records with long running times. But it does sound like you have an alignment problem.

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Steve
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post #54 of 55
8/7/08 at 1:32pm
Yes, obviously it was an alignment problem...today my new cart arrived, i screwed it on the headshell perfectly straight just like the old integrated one, checked alignment with the aid of a diagram...and it was awful...now with the new cart perfectly adjusted the distortion has gone away... And i noticed that playback of records in not excelent condition have greatly improved...100% satisfied now
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post #55 of 55
8/7/08 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by Meliboeus View Post
Yes, obviously it was an alignment problem... ...100% satisfied now
Glad to hear this! Enjoy your vinyl...
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