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post #3061 of 3420

Face,

You're right, the fixed "room gain" addition is by far the fuzziest part of the whole calculation and can be considered wrong.

Room gain can still factor into efficiency ratings, as some manufacturers seem to design for more roll-off anechoic (and can often spec a higher sensitivity as a result, under the assumption that most rooms will fill it in just right) and some for more flat anechoic (with lower spec'd sensitivity and perhaps a bit of a in-room boost in the low end, which could arguably be more "musically pleasing").

 

Mainly I'd meant to point out that on-paper efficiency numbers seem to be not-too-infrequently "fudged" (or at least highly inconsistent). Jim Smith (author of "Get Better Sound") has posted that 1 model of Zu speakers spec'd at 98dB (though perhaps only a claimed ~97dB/Watt if they were 12 ohms and the spec'd number was sensitivity) measured 3dB less loud than the 96dB/Watt Tannoy Canterbury in his setup, same input. A 4dB discrepancy is very substantial.

 

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Edited by mulveling - 11/4/12 at 11:16am
post #3062 of 3420

Yes, OEM's also like to leave out how much efficiency may have been lost due to baffle step compensation or bass shelving in the crossover.

 

I also can't stand how some rate their low end bass response with room gain added...like every room and placement is the same.  Anechoic should be the standard.

post #3063 of 3420
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Still trying to hunt down a legit copy of Aenima under 300 bucks.

 

Damn, that is expensive.  

 

One of the reasons I'm into music, and media in general, and books, is b/c it's so affordable.  That's why I don't mind the upfront cost of quality gear.  Anyway, I'm sure the CD is almost as good.  I wonder...assuming there's a better quality version out there, is there a 192K or better version?  Would love a super hi-res version of Lateralus.  384...or DSD...I'm in.

 

Another thought: recently I heard vinyl for the first time  It was at an audio salon and the record player was hooked up to some money components.  Anyway, I was psyched, but came away disappointed.  Dynamics were great, super range, but I felt like a large part of low level information was lost, and it's the constant crackle that did it.  It could be that I had a bad first experience, but it does leave a bad taste in the mouth.

post #3064 of 3420
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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

Damn, that is expensive.  

One of the reasons I'm into music, and media in general, and books, is b/c it's so affordable.  That's why I don't mind the upfront cost of quality gear.  Anyway, I'm sure the CD is almost as good.  I wonder...assuming there's a better quality version out there, is there a 192K or better version?  Would love a super hi-res version of Lateralus.  384...or DSD...I'm in.

Another thought: recently I heard vinyl for the first time  It was at an audio salon and the record player was hooked up to some money components.  Anyway, I was psyched, but came away disappointed.  Dynamics were great, super range, but I felt like a large part of low level information was lost, and it's the constant crackle that did it.  It could be that I had a bad first experience, but it does leave a bad taste in the mouth.

Any idea what they were pushing? For me it usually has fantastic low end. The dynamic range is really what improves. It's fantastic.

As for the crackle, when properly cleaned and taken care of (with the proper phono stage) can produce a blacker background than my CDs.
post #3065 of 3420
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Any idea what they were pushing? For me it usually has fantastic low end. The dynamic range is really what improves. It's fantastic.
As for the crackle, when properly cleaned and taken care of (with the proper phono stage) can produce a blacker background than my CDs.

 

In retrospect, and given what I'm able to coax out of my current speakers, the low end really was full and fantastic.  

 

I don't know what the record player or phono stage was, but the amp was a Line Magnetic and the speakers Devore Orangutans.  Not the more expensive version, the $8K version.

 

Blacker background than CDs...hmm.  Intrigued.  

post #3066 of 3420

What you're generally hearing is a better master- not a superior medium for things like dynamic range, noise floor ("black background",) etc.

post #3067 of 3420
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What you're generally hearing is a better master- not a superior medium for things like dynamic range, noise floor ("black background",) etc.

Correct, and noise floor really depends on the company/stage. I'm referring to the Moon 310LP with the PSU running balanced. Granted that's basically a 3k phono stage. Of course cart has to do with it as well.
post #3068 of 3420
Pictures of.... Nevermind this is a discussion thread now :(
post #3069 of 3420

Well, when I get my Invicta & Stratos later this week, I'll post a picture of the speaker rig that's coming together under my roof.  

 

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On a side note, the over-enthusiastic quarantining of topics on Head-fi is bothering me.


Edited by sphinxvc - 11/5/12 at 7:15am
post #3070 of 3420
There does seem to be a bit of OC creep going on....rolleyes.gif
post #3071 of 3420

Say what?  wink.gif

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post #3073 of 3420

super ghetto cellphone pic of what i would certainly now consider to be high end system. My Anedio D2 into the First Watt F1 into HifiMan HE-6s

 

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post #3074 of 3420
Audition 3 high end power amps
CD player : Aura April music +
pre amp / dac.: M2tech Vaughan +
power amp :
Mono block tube amp T + A M 10. /
KR tube amp KR 320 /
Virus solid state power amp SS 102 +
speaker : German physik unlimited 11

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Virus power amp SS 102

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KR Audio KR 320

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post #3075 of 3420

That thing must weigh a ton. eek.gif

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