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post #46 of 95
7/23/08 at 1:49am
Cryo stuff that gets abused.

Ortherwise, I am also in the camp of it does very little or nothing to the sound.
It DOES increase the durability/flexibility of the cable. I would use Cryo treatment on headphone cable and cables for portable rigs. I wouldn't do it to anything else because it does nothing to benefit that end.

It DOES for a fact result in more times that you can bend the wire without breaking - tried it!
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post #47 of 95
7/23/08 at 10:31pm
Someone is sending me some stuff to cryo.

Germania or anyone else from nwu can come and watch
to confirm i did in fact do it. KG80 in the tech building.
Date and time when i know when the stuff will be here.
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post #48 of 95
7/23/08 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by jma790 View Post
Yes... Bose!! 5th state of matter!
The problem is that not all metals become superconductors with cooling.
Superconductors become superconductors with cooling.
And they superconduct only when at or VERY near absolute 0.

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Originally Posted by -=Germania=- View Post
Cryo stuff that gets abused.

Ortherwise, I am also in the camp of it does very little or nothing to the sound.
It DOES increase the durability/flexibility of the cable. I would use Cryo treatment on headphone cable and cables for portable rigs. I wouldn't do it to anything else because it does nothing to benefit that end.

It DOES for a fact result in more times that you can bend the wire without breaking - tried it!
As a mech. engineer, i"ll back this engineer's statement - cryo will definitely make the metal more ductile. What other benefit is has, I don't know. However, just keep in mind the bottlenecks - connectors, jacks, PCB traces, leads on resistors, capacitors, etc. 'nuff said.
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post #49 of 95
9/9/08 at 1:48pm
Cryogenic Treatment has been used on guitar strings and many different kinds of electrical wires. Quite a few people these days get their tubes treated cheaply and sell them on ebay.

I think this site may be able to help you with more info about cryo treatment.

Cryogenic Institute

Cryogenic Treatment Page - Cryogenic Institute
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post #50 of 95
9/9/08 at 2:05pm
I've had an ALO silver cable and a Jumbo Cryo a the same time before; no difference whatsoever. I concentrated and focused on the same song over and over until I looked constipated, but alas.

So IMHO only cryo cables if they're going to go out in public, where they'll be tougher and look cooler.
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post #51 of 95
9/9/08 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by HumanMedia View Post
Here is something that may relate to cryo changes in components/interconnects.

When metals are supercooled they go into the 5 state of matter - Bose Einstien condensate where the electrons are in lockstep and the material will superconduct.

So if a conductor is supercooled (cryo) and then slowly brought to room temperature is the new more relaxed state a degree closer to the superconducting state?
That would require cooling to a much, much lower temperature and keeping it there. You can't get "closer" to a superconductive state in any working way. Something either superconducts or it doesn't.
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post #52 of 95
9/10/08 at 4:07am
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Originally Posted by kevin gilmore View Post
Someone is sending me some stuff to cryo.
will be very interesting!
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post #53 of 95
10/4/08 at 4:26pm
any more news on that yet?
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post #54 of 95
10/4/08 at 4:34pm
All I can say is, if the urban legend turns out to be true, when Walt Disney is finally defrosted he's going to be absolutely stunning to listen to.
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post #55 of 95
10/4/08 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by AudioCats View Post
any more news on that yet?
I sent the stuff back weeks ago. Have not heard anything yet.

crappy low res pictures.
http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/jordan1.jpg
http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/jordan2.jpg
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post #56 of 95
10/5/08 at 5:00am
It is the Gilmore corner!

BTW: Some of the stuff in that lab looks very "Section 5"
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post #57 of 95
10/5/08 at 5:19am
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Originally Posted by spookygonk View Post
All I can say is, if the urban legend turns out to be true, when Walt Disney is finally defrosted he's going to be absolutely stunning to listen to.
LOL
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post #58 of 95
10/5/08 at 10:55am
LOL Kevin you are insane, you even drop CDs in there too!!!!!!

Can I get of these CD jewel cases cryo treated, just to see if they are less prone to break???
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post #59 of 95
10/5/08 at 12:36pm
I too am very keen to know if there was any sonic improvements, I have wondered as to the benefits of this process if any?

who sent you things for treatment??
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post #60 of 95
10/5/08 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Sovkiller View Post
LOL Kevin you are insane, you even drop CDs in there too!!!!!!

Can I get of these CD jewel cases cryo treated, just to see if they are less prone to break???
Actually there were 3 x SACD's, and all came out fine. One of the
micro jewel cases had a crack in it, not sure whether or not it was
cracked beforehand. All the cables and connectors came out fine.

Turns out one of the 3 baggies i threw in there also did not like the
cold, and came out very brittle. Not sure why. It was a no-name brand
anyway.

I'm expecting the person who had me do the cryo to post here soon.
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