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post #16 of 64
I've definitely heard a difference in silver cable... but only as compared to a cable that had very obviously frayed somewhere in the middle and induced static when I moved it.

Regrettably that cable broke. It was my standard comparison benchmark to make sure that I wasn't going crazy when I heard some crazy difference in my signal path.
post #17 of 64
Between my CDP and preamp I have compared a copper to two silver cables. The copper cable is AQ Columbia w/ 48v DBS. The two silver cables are private label 4 conductor cables Their difference is in the dielectric. A is Teflon, B is Cotton. The Columbia is very neutral and presents a full range sound with decent life and emotion. The telfon silver has more life with added inner detail. The cotton silver just ratchets up the emotion. I could live with the Teflon but once you here the Cotton the AQ cable seems dull.
post #18 of 64
I don't believe any of this for a second. At the gauges and lengths we're talking about, silver and copper cannot make a distance in resistance, so therefore the sound cannot possibly change unless people are imagining that it is changing or listening differently.
post #19 of 64
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Originally Posted by WaxMan View Post
I am curious as to what your opinions are on the sound of silver. I happen to love it. It fascinates me that a cable made of silver can have such a different sound than say a copper cable. Silver to me is a wide open airy warm sound. But a kind of fluffy warm sound, a smooth warm sound. I am speaking from experience gained from a couple of ipod line out docks I have used in the past. First I owned a Jumbo Cryo and I loved it. The sound was just amazing. I have since sold the Jumbo Cryo and now I use a Jumbo Cotton Dock V2. I am amazed at the warm sounds that the cotton dock produces, it is not bright or harsh in any way though, just warm and airy sounding. The thing I loved about my Jumbo Cryo was that it was so durable, I worry sometimes about my Jumbo Cotton cause I just know that silver is kind of soft, and not as resiliant as copper. I tote it around almost everyday, maybe I'm just being paranoid though. I'm sure it will be fine. Anyway just wondering what other people's opinions are on the sound of silver. Thanks!
I just did a comparison of pure silver RCA IC (RAL Paradise) v. pure copper RCA IC (Audioquest Columbia) and the difference was immediately obvious. Of course they weren't the same design with only different material, but here's my observation:

Warmth is what I'd use to describe the AQ. Good glowing warmth, vintage kind of feeling. Plenty of body, plenty of bass.

The RAL WAS brighter, there was more clarity, separation was better, and cleaner, airer. The tone was leaner and bass was leaner, but definite.

I chose the AQ because it is better for longer period of listening (but that's not saying the RAL is harsh). I like the sound and don't mind the slight sacrifice in clarity.

All that said, silver done right can sound warmer; copper done wrong can sound grainy - a lot of how the cable will sound still have to do with the design - the add-ons to each's nature. I guess that's why we see so many hybrids today.
post #20 of 64
What about silver plated copper? Not just a measley thin strand with a couple of microns of plating, but say solid core copper with a hefty plate of silver? Would the sound be more coppery, or silvery?
post #21 of 64
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Originally Posted by Listens2tubes View Post
The Columbia is very neutral and presents a full range sound with decent life and emotion
All wires that are properly constructed are neutral and have a full range sound. No wire has life and emotion. If that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest a dog.

See ya
Steve
post #22 of 64
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No wire has life and emotion. If that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest a dog.

See ya
Steve
Ok, now THAT'S pretty funny...lololol....
post #23 of 64
Silver doesn't have a sound. It transfers electrons from one component to another. It may be ~7% more conductive than copper, but that does not contribute to a change in sound quality.
post #24 of 64
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
All wires that are properly constructed are neutral and have a full range sound. No wire has life and emotion. If that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest a dog.

See ya
Steve
That was an excellent post, haha.
post #25 of 64
my take on this (and related topics): a closer look at what is meant by "i hear".

using silver instead of copper in an audio cable doesn't affect the signal it transports. BUT...

if you "know" (aka believe you know) that silver cable affects sound in this or that way, you could very well perceive that kind of change - not in your ears, but in your brain, which is where you really hear.

there's a difference between the objective signal that reaches our ears (usually not audibly affected by a cable's structure) and the subjective impression which can quite literally become "coloured".

in that way, silver cables CAN actually alter the sound - for that person! - if that is what he/she expects them to do. maybe not the cheapest way to reach aural bliss, but such statements can't objectively be disputed - because they would not be about physics, but about (the fallacy/wonderfully adaptive powers of) human perception.

now what are we REALLY talking about in all those threads?
post #26 of 64
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
All wires that are properly constructed are neutral and have a full range sound. No wire has life and emotion. If that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest a dog.

See ya
Steve
lmao!!!!! can i quote you in my sig please ?
post #27 of 64
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All wires that are properly constructed are neutral and have a full range sound. No wire has life and emotion. If that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest a dog.

See ya
Steve
That's the most intelligent comment about cables I have ever read on Head-Fi.
post #28 of 64
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Since when were the evil smilies fixed?




EK
post #29 of 64
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
All wires that are properly constructed are neutral and have a full range sound. No wire has life and emotion. If that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest a dog.

See ya
Steve
Yes, is glad to know that not whole HeadFi is in to that cable crap.

CABLES ALL SOUND THE SAME!!! The only scientific reason why it could sound better is called the placebo effect.

Everytime I read a review about cables I always have to ask myself if they' re not joking.
post #30 of 64
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lmao!!!!! can i quote you in my sig please ?
Feel free.

See ya
Steve
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