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post #376 of 487

prying for a 5.1 to stereo option for ulilith like foobar has. *sigh*,really need this.

 

anyway since such an option may not happen tomorrow any other ultra quality music player have a  similar  option ?? any vst do this ???

 

 

i really love and often used foobar 5.1 to stereo option.but it's just that i love ulilith's sound that much more so hoping... :)

 

 

me and leeperry can't be the only ones to hope ulilith adds this feature,right ???? ;)

 

post #377 of 487

Got a few 'beginners' questions.  happy_face1.gif

 

 

1. When turning off upsampling, is there a simpler way of doing it other than going into ulilith settings/ device and ticking all the allowed SR boxes?  With JRMC, for example, you just needed one click to turn upsampling on or off, not several.

 

2. To use the digital volume attenuation a little without reducing sound quality, select 64 bit Floating Point?

 

3.  You cannot open a file through windows explorer by making ulilith the default program?   You have to open files from ulilith itself or by 'dragging' files from Windows Explorer?

 

4. Where can I get more skins from?

 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

 

 

(OS is Windows 7, 64 bit. I'm using the latest build of x64 Core 2.7z)

post #378 of 487

1. there's an option to toggle upsampling: /audio/sound output/"allow sample rate conversion if needed"

 

2. the whole audio pipeline is processed in 64fp(VST plugins/lossy audio decoding/volume attenuation) but in the end it has to be converted to 24int anyway(avoid 16int, it's too lossy)....either you let windows(choose 32fp/64fp output) or uLilith(choose 24int output) do it.

 

3. run Associater.exe and assign all the filetypes you like to uLilith

 

4. no idea, there are some kawai ones around I think

 

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Originally Posted by cd-r View Post

praying for a 5.1 to stereo option for ulilith like foobar has.

 

whine to the coder as I've been doing since forever, but that most likely will NEVER happen.


Edited by leeperry - 5/27/12 at 5:52pm
post #379 of 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

1. there's an option to toggle upsampling: /audio/sound output/"allow sample rate conversion if needed"

 

2. the whole audio pipeline is processed in 64fp(VST plugins/lossy audio decoding/volume attenuation) but in the end it has to be converted to 24int anyway(avoid 16int, it's too lossy)....either you let windows(choose 32fp/64fp output) or uLilith(choose 24int output) do it.

 

3. run Associater.exe and assign all the filetypes you like to uLilith

 

4. no idea, there are some kawai ones around I think

 

 

Thanks for your help

 

1.  I'm already aware of the 'allow sample rate conversion' box.  But the way it sees to work with ulilith is that to upsample to, say, 192k, you need to deselect all the other SR boxes (eg 44/48/88/96) plus tick the 'allow sample rate' box.   If you then want to turn off upsampling, you have to tick all the bloody individual remaining SR boxes again. bigsmile_face.gif . Just unticking the 'allow sample rate box' is not enough.

 

 

3.  By run associater.exe you simply mean, right-click on a particular file, 'open with', choose default program (ie ulilth) and make sure that 'always use selected program to open this kind of file' box is ticked?  Well, I have to browse to my downloads folder because that's where the ulilith application is- ie it didn't install to C/ program files.  Might that have something to do with it?


Edited by BrainFood - 5/28/12 at 7:25am
post #380 of 487

SRC sounds bad in uLilith IME, try the DP-1's upsampler instead?

 

I'm talking about \ulilith\Associater.exe

post #381 of 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

SRC sounds bad in uLilith IME, try the DP-1's upsampler instead?

I thought that ulilith sounded better last time I compared, but I'll give it another try ;).  You can't do the integer upsampling (whatever it's called) with the DP-1 because it only upsamples to 96/192 and most files are 44khz.

 

 

 

Quote:
I'm talking about \ulilith\Associater.exe

Ah, brilliant!!  

 

I think with some other programs, you can make them the default player of particular files through windows explorer without necessarily having to select the associations within the player itself.

post #382 of 487

The king of upsampling is Reclock via WASAPI exclusive in "best sinc interpolation" mode anyway evil_smiley.gif

 

It's never been proven that 2X upsampling would do a better job than arbitrary 96/192kHz....neither can it be proven in WaveSpectra. I hate upsampling myself, all it does is flood the DAC oversampling stage w/ bogus interpolated data....shrillness and colored sound is all you'll get IME.


Edited by leeperry - 5/28/12 at 9:00am
post #383 of 487

How's foobar compare to lilith?
 

post #384 of 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt head 777 View Post

How's foobar compared to lilith?
 

 

Compare them and let us know what you hear.


Edited by leeperry - 5/28/12 at 9:11am
post #385 of 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

I hate upsampling myself, all it does is flood the DAC oversampling stage w/ bogus interpolated data....shrillness and colored sound is all you'll get IME.

 

 

Through my (older redface.gif ) ears, the difference is more subtle than pronounced.

 

BTW, I only upsample MP3.  Being a dance music aficionado, I'm unable to avoid lossy files if I want to listen to other's mixes, and various links.

 

 

Anyhow, big thumbs up for ulilith. It's a great player, despite the silly name etysmile.gif

post #386 of 487
Originally Posted by Enthusia View Post

Most of you use foobar 2000 with either the asio or kernel streaming configuration, at least I hope you all do. But I've recently found a new player recommended by a fellow audiophile. It is called Lilith and it is made by the Japanese software developers project9k. I'd even say this audio player ranks high up there with the famous foobar2000.

Here is the guide. It's for X-fi users, but its basically the same set-up if you have a different sound card.

ASIO Native Soundcard(X-Fi) with Lilith Music Software - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

Use this link to download Lilith
Translated version of http://www.project9k.jp/

(Update) 9/23/2011 

 

Tomoyo found the english version of Lilith

 

Use this link to download the latest 32bit edition http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2011-09-15_x86.7z

 

Thanks for this.

post #387 of 487

Tried Ulilith and IMO it sounds better than Foobar (ASIO or Wasapi).  I'm very happy with the SQ improvements but wished there was a skin for large window size - which would make the playlist much more convenient and easier to scroll...

post #388 of 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by rictee View Post

Tried Ulilith and IMO it sounds better than Foobar (ASIO or Wasapi).  I'm very happy with the SQ improvements but wished there was a skin for large window size - which would make the playlist much more convenient and easier to scroll...

 

 

I was about to make exactly the same point regular_smile%20.gif

 

I'd ideally like there to be an option for filling the whole screen (or at least bigger) for viewing from the couch a few feet away, with a wireless mouse.  Of course, this would mean increasing font size along with window size.

 

If not uLilith, anyone know any players that can do this? (e.g. J River has a theatre mode that makes it bigger for viewing from distance, if you are willing to pay for the player itself)


Edited by BrainFood - 6/8/12 at 3:56am
post #389 of 487
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post

 

If not uLilith, anyone know any players that can do this? (e.g. J River has a theatre mode that makes it bigger for viewing from distance, if you are willing to pay for the player itself)

 

Bump o2smile.gif

post #390 of 487

LILITH is very intuitive and excellent player.

 

 

Let see new toy effect wear thin valley, Chinese goddess syndrome of lotus petal fire!!!

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