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post #226 of 487

 

Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post

 

Playback in Foobar2k and even uLilith is always gapless for me.
 

 

yep, but I'd love a gapless Reclock solution.

 

Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post

 

Foobar2k [..] sounds slightly muddy compared to my transport.  Lacks a bit of bass in comparison as well.  uLilith is none of that.

 

Foobar2k seems to have a bit of a white-ish tone whereas uLilith is slightly reddish.  uLilith mostly just tames treble ever so slightly.

Andrea, get out of this body..now! [:popok]

 

yes, the sound is utterly bass shy and blurry in foobar, even a blind man can see it.


Edited by leeperry - 7/23/10 at 9:49am
post #227 of 487

Oh right, ReClock. 

post #228 of 487
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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

Yet another member says he hears no differences.  I said to each their own, just wondering why you guys use a player and yet suggest it has obvious coloring.  Isn't the idea to get as transparent a sound as possible?


Maybe we should just let them hear what they want to hear...

post #229 of 487
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Originally Posted by xnor View Post


Maybe we should just let them hear what they want to hear...



Yes, you're right.  What I find weird is some say normal stock players sounds bad.  The only players that sound good on their gear are players with DSP, hacks and other garbage that changes the sound.

Perhaps it is not so much the player that sound bad but what they are using for hardware and their settings? 

Anyway, if that is what you want to have play your tunes, enjoy.


Edited by ROBSCIX - 7/23/10 at 12:45pm
post #230 of 487

It is indeed an even mixture of both software and hardware.  Rather stupid that we endlessly tinker with such flawed players/hardware, still, having your whole library at the tips of your fingers sure is nice.

I know I still can't get my PC to sound as good as my DVD player feeding my DAC.  At least the software tinkering is free. =D

In the end, it is all small differences which is why some hear it and some "don't." (Disregarding how revealing or not your DAC is.)

 

leeperry, I don't think Andrea is on right now, and this happy little catholic man would be a better suited exorcist.

 

pic


Edited by Mad Max - 7/23/10 at 2:11pm
post #231 of 487

Hellsing huh? That OVA has great OST and audio effect.

post #232 of 487

Mmmm placebo.

post #233 of 487

 

Originally Posted by Dalamar View Post

placebo.

exactly my thoughts, young ppl use drugs excessively[:benarfafumette]

post #234 of 487

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Originally Posted by Dalamar View Post

Mmmm placebo.

 

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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

 

exactly my thoughts, young ppl use drugs excessively[:benarfafumette]


 

Aren't ya'll the ones hooked on Obecalp, old men?

 

 

hurrr durrr


Edited by Mad Max - 7/24/10 at 11:25am
post #235 of 487

are you being sarcastic? I can't tell [:kangol:1]

post #236 of 487

I've spent the past few hours comaring uLilith w/ Media Monkey with a Teralink X2 w/ Linear PS and W7. Perusing this thread I'm not sure if I've selected the appropriate version: I have a 3Ghz P4 w/ HyperThreading, so I just went w/ the x86 Ulilith 6/4/10. DAC is a DIY AD1865.

 

I played around with bit settings and settled on 24 bit as the best sounding. I'm not well versed enougn in computer audio to know what the 32 and 64 float are supposed to do. Are they for regular audio listening or are they related to all the VST plugin stuff?

 

Media Monkey used KS. The two programs sound nothing alike to me. Media Monkey had a more pronounced low end, vocals were smoother,a nd overall less fatiguing. Ulilith I found more transparent to certain degree but also a little bit treble heavy. Slightly fatiguing in the long run. I took a look at the priorities section and selected Real TIme for Playback. This improved things a notch. There is an engaging quality to uLilith but at this time its hard for me to say how much may be dependent on settings I have not selected appropriately so I will continue to play around.For the moment I find Monkey the more 'analog' of the two.

post #237 of 487

 

Originally Posted by wushuliu View Post

 

The two programs sound nothing alike to me.

Congratulations, you're not deaf! [:runner11]

 

You may wanna use this version: http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2010-06-06_x86.7z

 

32fp or 64fp is the accuracy of the lossy audio decoding, VST plugins processing and volume attenuation...in the end, uLilith adds noise shaping/dithering if needed(depending on your output bitdepth setting).

 

You may also wanna try Reclock(in KS/WASAPI) to get a bit more perspective on what your PC can really do....but tbh, your set up will sound MILES better w/ an ADUM4160 dongle to boot [:ginie]


Edited by leeperry - 7/26/10 at 5:10am
post #238 of 487

So is Reclock a separate program to use instead of ulilith or is it a plug-in?

 

The dongle should be on its way...

 



 

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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

 

Congratulations, you're not deaf! [:runner11]

 

You may wanna use this version: http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2010-06-06_x86.7z

 

32fp or 64fp is the accuracy of the lossy audio decoding, VST plugins processing and volume attenuation...in the end, uLilith adds noise shaping/dithering if needed(depending on your output bitdepth setting).

 

You may also wanna try Reclock(in KS/WASAPI) to get a bit more perspective on what your PC can really do....but tbh, your set up will sound MILES better w/ an ADUM4160 dongle to boot [:ginie]

post #239 of 487

there's a somewhat outdated tutorial here, I would personally use MPC or PotPlayer and force ffdshow to output 32bit float for lossy audio. I think I posted instructions about that in the last pages: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/438010/tutorial-wasapi-support-for-kmplayer-having-a-top-notch-video-audio-player#post_5901597

 

Reclock is an audio renderer, and if you're on XP I posted some stuff to add to your boot.ini for tighter timings in this very thread a few days ago. You need a DirectShow player to transport music to Reclock.

post #240 of 487


 

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Originally Posted by wushuliu View Post

I've spent the past few hours comparing uLilith w/ Media Monkey with a Teralink X2 w/ Linear PS and W7. Perusing this thread I'm not sure if I've selected the appropriate version: I have a 3Ghz P4 w/ HyperThreading, so I just went w/ the x86 Ulilith 6/4/10. DAC is a DIY AD1865.

 

I played around with bit settings and settled on 24 bit as the best sounding. I'm not well versed enougn in computer audio to know what the 32 and 64 float are supposed to do. Are they for regular audio listening or are they related to all the VST plugin stuff?

 

Media Monkey used KS. The two programs sound nothing alike to me. Media Monkey had a more pronounced low end, vocals were smoother,a nd overall less fatiguing. Ulilith I found more transparent to certain degree but also a little bit treble heavy. Slightly fatiguing in the long run. I took a look at the priorities section and selected Real TIme for Playback. This improved things a notch. There is an engaging quality to uLilith but at this time its hard for me to say how much may be dependent on settings I have not selected appropriately so I will continue to play around.For the moment I find Monkey the more 'analog' of the two.

Seems like your testing is anything but accurate as you are not even sure if you have the proper version, right plugins etc..

Thanks for the impressions anyway but they are to many variables in your testing to be considered proof of actual differences in sound.  I have heard others say that ulilith is a fatiguing player with many setups.  Others say they sound the same...etc.
 

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