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post #466 of 654

Congrats on your find!

 

I have the Stock Russian 6N1P's in the L/R positions. A Genelax Golden Lion 6922 up front and a USAF 596 with adapter in the Rectifier spot.

post #467 of 654
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Originally Posted by Nick Dangerous View Post

Don't use a 12AU7. CSP2+ uses 6922 variants.

 

I recommend a 1960's-era Mullard Old Shield E88CC up front, stock 6N1P-EV drivers, and either an Emission Labs 5U4G ($$$ but good) or RCA 5Y3GT (cheap but good) rectifier.

Mullard 50bucks infront...EML 250bucks behind... keep the stock russian in betwix....ok thats tempting really..

Mullard has a romantic draw for me, dunno y, maybe its the name...Moooolarrrd.

 

i guess this combo will sound SWEET, involving?? 


Edited by Lorspeaker - 8/6/13 at 9:28am
post #468 of 654
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

Congrats on your find!

 

I have the Stock Russian 6N1P's in the L/R positions. A Genelax Golden Lion 6922 up front and a USAF 596 with adapter in the Rectifier spot.

 

THe russian tubes are robust and stable for the centre huh, both of u are saying that. 

Put a lion infront and the Airforce behind.. ok

 

how does this combo sound like? brief description?

post #469 of 654

i am getting intermittent connection on the front 1/4" socket....( mine is front entry)

when i try to insert the BTG plug, i need to twist n twirl until i get a good stereo connect.

when i use the hd650 plug, it went in snug n nice...no issues at all...big great sound.

when i plug in a superlux 681 evo 1/4" adaptor, i get a very poor stereo..gave up on this chinese plug. 


Edited by Lorspeaker - 8/6/13 at 9:34am
post #470 of 654
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

Congrats on your find!

 

I have the Stock Russian 6N1P's in the L/R positions. A Genelax Golden Lion 6922 up front and a USAF 596 with adapter in the Rectifier spot.

 

THe russian tubes are robust and stable for the centre huh, both of u are saying that. 

Put a lion infront and the Airforce behind.. ok

 

how does this combo sound like? brief description?

It is a combo that Steve Deckert recommends. You get the smoothness of the 6N1P's with the slam from the 6922. Nice combo.

post #471 of 654
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

i am getting intermittent connection on the front 1/4" socket....( mine is front entry)

when i try to insert the BTG plug, i need to twist n twirl until i get a good stereo connect.

when i use the hd650 plug, it went in snug n nice...no issues at all...big great sound.

when i plug in a superlux 681 evo 1/4" adaptor, i get a very poor stereo..gave up on this chinese plug. 

Hmmm. I am having no trouble with Stock or Furutech....

post #472 of 654

quick question, are u guys getting good sound/good bass on the LCD2 paired with CSP2+? 

ie ...is the csp2 able to power the LCD2 reasonably sufficient...? 


Edited by Lorspeaker - 8/6/13 at 7:21pm
post #473 of 654
I've never tried, as the CSP2/+ is not for orthos (per Decware's site/Steve Deckert's notes).

When the LCD2 was first released Skylab did an excellent review with (typically) comparisons across a range of amps. He found the CSP2 rolled off too much IIRC, which I think he attributed to OTL designs not suiting orthos.
post #474 of 654
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Originally Posted by AiDee View Post

I've never tried, as the CSP2/+ is not for orthos (per Decware's site/Steve Deckert's notes).

When the LCD2 was first released Skylab did an excellent review with (typically) comparisons across a range of amps. He found the CSP2 rolled off too much IIRC, which I think he attributed to OTL designs not suiting orthos.

 

So far the CSP2+ on stock tubes, scores very well with T1 , hd650, Grado 225 easily, no problems at all.

 

pro900 and d7000....i have to tune down the 2channel gains, and dial up the vol knob before i could control the bass. otherwise the bass sounds perforated at my listening vol,

pro900 borderline good,

d7000 borderline fail to acceptable at lower volume.

 

LCD2 sounded perforated totally...failed.

 

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which tube would allow me to play the CSP2+ at a louder volume?/ or better power?? 

 (my goal is to get a solid grip on the d7k..my fav can )  anyone has good success on the d7k? 


Edited by Lorspeaker - 8/7/13 at 12:17am
post #475 of 654

In my rig, I switched between Bugle Boy 6DJ8 or Telefunken 6922 at front, and keep the 6N1P for L&R, this works very well and improved the weakness of 6N1P. The headphones sound perfectly are T1 (Never heard it sounds such good in other amplifiers), HD650 (esp. with Cardas Clear Light cable), DT880.

post #476 of 654
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Originally Posted by ManAtWork View Post

In my rig, I switched between Bugle Boy 6DJ8 or Telefunken 6922 at front, and keep the 6N1P for L&R, this works very well and improved the weakness of 6N1P. The headphones sound perfectly are T1 (Never heard it sounds such good in other amplifiers), HD650 (esp. with Cardas Clear Light cable), DT880.

That seems to be the sweet spot for the CSP2+. 6N1P's in the Driver slot and 6922's for the L/R output.

post #477 of 654
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

That seems to be the sweet spot for the CSP2+. 6N1P's in the Driver slot and 6922's for the L/R output.


U meant the 6n1ps in the L/R ...right?

Yaa, the T1, hd650, beyers are fine even on the stock tubes
I relishing to hear how farrrrrr better it's gonna go with better tubes$$ tongue.gif

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Anyone mastered the denons on this amp with some tube combo?
Or it's marginally beyond the design of this amp...?
post #478 of 654
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

That seems to be the sweet spot for the CSP2+. 6N1P's in the Driver slot and 6922's for the L/R output.


U meant the 6n1ps in the L/R ...right?

Yaa, the T1, hd650, beyers are fine even on the stock tubes
I relishing to hear how farrrrrr better it's gonna go with better tubes$$ tongue.gif

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Anyone mastered the denons on this amp with some tube combo?
Or it's marginally beyond the design of this amp...?

Yes....Too early for cogent thought!  biggrin.gif

post #479 of 654

While the 6N1P tubes remain in L&R because of its very low noise characteristic, I have consulted Steve and he said his 6N1P stock tubes are selected tubes with very great noise level, which most NOS tubes couldn't match. The L&R output in CSP2+ are very sensitive with noisy tubes, that's why I keep the 6N1P there. However, the sound can be improved by using Bugle Boy for better dynamic; or Telefunken for better clarity.

 

Frankly, I failed to find any very low noise NOS 6922 tubes in market, and stop for further experiment due to the high cost of premium 6922 NOS tubes. tongue_smile.gif

post #480 of 654
I am enjoying the Genelax Golden Lion 6922 in the front.
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