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Come on folks help Peter to get his Headphoneus Supremus
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What you have to say interest me Peter, too bad your thread is saturated with spam by some members. We all hear differently. I can't say S logic works or not. I never heard it before. But we should be mature enough and respectful enough to hear what he has to say, even if the majority seems to think he is totally wrong. No one forces you to post in a thread. Flame bait just leads to BS.
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Originally Posted by swbf2cheater View Post
Bose is a dirty word around these parts my friend.

I am looking for a main headphone, I dont use my Sennheisers except for my HD 485 lol. I really love the Ultrasone Pro 750s, but they are not as forward as I'd like my main headphones to me. I hear the 225i and 325i are forward sounding. I would really appreciate some advice on the grados compared to the pro 750
"Bose is a dirty word around these parts my friend."
Yes, I know. I've never liked Bose. In case you missed my meaning, I was saying that Bose, in my opinion, are unnatural sounding headphones. My comment was definitely not a compliment about Bose headphones.
I "love" these terms like "forward sounding". I think what you mean is that you want a more prominent sounding mid-range. Is this correct? Or, do you want the entire frequency range to be more prominent? If the later is correct, you might try turning up the volume. I know that might sound simple and ridiculous but it actually works in satisfying some listeners.
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Welcome back Peter



So you finally got one to try out? Your next mission now is to try the HD800

Thanks Cov... nice to be back.
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I am wondering what your opinion is on the differences between the 550 and the 900? In your experience do you think the ultrasones compare well to the Alessandros? At the moment I am considering Alessandros, ultrasones and also Audio Technica models as they are all seemingly easy to drive.
It has been a fair while since I had the Proline550 and even a couple of months since I have heard the Pro900, and I don't like giving opinions on memory. Having stated that, the Pro900 is a great headphone and in a league considerably higher than the Proline550. The 550 is a good headphone and certainly competes with most headphones at similar price point and better than many closed fons. The 550 is bass foccused, however not as refined or competent as the 900, that is not to say that it is one note sloppy bass, just not as controlled as the black Ultrasone. The Alessandros are fairly typical to Grado sound, being very forward and aggressive, the MS2 more so than the MS1. I also liked the AD900 ATH which is airy and smooth.
Thay all are fairly efficient, and all are good headphones however with very different sound sigs. If you like forward, select a Grado/Alessandro, airy with sound stage, the AD900, bassy and closed, the Ultrasones (they do have a bigger sound stage than the Alessandros). The MS2 is better than the MS1 but I wouldn't want it as my only headphone, it is great at times, but fatiguing at times. The Pro900 is a top tier headphone in my opinion and if you can afford it, a great listen with most music genres. The Proline 550 is at the same level as the AD900, and maybe MS2, but as I have stated, all very different to each other.
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What you have to say interest me Peter, too bad your thread is saturated with spam by some members. We all hear differently. I can't say S logic works or not. I never heard it before. But we should be mature enough and respectful enough to hear what he has to say, even if the majority seems to think he is totally wrong. No one forces you to post in a thread. Flame bait just leads to BS.
Thank you for your kind words. I really don't think the "majority" thinks I'm totally wrong. But those who do think I'm wrong are very prominent in their objections to my comments.
My friends, it is all a matter of perspective and application. In other words, what do you want from a headphone and how do you plan to use it? For my purposes, the Pro 750 serves me well. I've never said that there is no better headphone than the 750. Indeed, there probably is a better headphone. But, can that better headphone withstand the rigors of a studio production situation where critical listening is a must while other audio activities are going on simultaneously? The audiophile who can sit in an easy chair listening to a pair of beautiful sounding and probably highly breakable headphones, might not find the Pro 750 as satisfying as I do for my purposes. I'd be willing to bet, though, that audiophile would not dare so much as attempt doing with those beautiful headphones what I consider common place professional activities for which I use my Pro 750.
And, yes, I do listen with the Pro 750 for personal enjoyment as well as for professional "critical listening". Why? Because, in production situations, I've done enough with them to know that the audio I hear through them sounds so close to what I've heard in the studio that it causes me to be confident that what I hear when listening to a commercial recording with them is extremely close to what the audio engineer of that particular recording intended for the listener to hear.
Finding the time to listen to other headphones for personal enjoyment is a major challenge for me. Yes, I certainly would like to hear a headphone that I like better than the Pro 750. I have a sense though, that when, and if, I ever do find that "better headphone", unless it's another headphone made specifically for professional production application, I won't be able to use it, without a certain amount of trepidation, in the studio.
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Originally Posted by Peter Pinna View Post
"Bose is a dirty word around these parts my friend."
Yes, I know. I've never liked Bose. In case you missed my meaning, I was saying that Bose, in my opinion, are unnatural sounding headphones. My comment was definitely not a compliment about Bose headphones.
I "love" these terms like "forward sounding". I think what you mean is that you want a more prominent sounding mid-range. Is this correct? Or, do you want the entire frequency range to be more prominent? If the later is correct, you might try turning up the volume. I know that might sound simple and ridiculous but it actually works in satisfying some listeners.
Ew no, my pro 750s are prominent, the difference from prominent and forward is significant. Some headphones sound physically distant. If i close my eyes tight, my HD 600s or 650s seem like they are distant, as if literally the music were coming from a DISTANCE away. I dislike this. Good IEMS sound very close to you. Thats what I am looking for. People are saying Grado sound is closer, more forward sounding. The 225is are not natural sounding and are forward, so thats what I am after. I REALLY hate distant sounding cans, and I hate airy natural sounding even more. It's only good for classical, no other genre should sound natural. It's just me, but ive said it a 1000 times that mh senn HD 485 is the best sennheiser ever. It is the most well rounded musically inclined of all the sets i own. It heavily colors the music, the sound produced is ME, i enjoy it more than the 600s and 650...neither of which i even use. They sit in a box because MUSIC sounds more enjoyable to me via the 485 than ANYTHING. I also own a pair of dirt cheap stock insignia earbuds that SMASH...literally SMASH every single set ive ever owned. Including my expensive full size.

>.>

im hoping the grado sound is also ME and that I enjoy it more than the 485
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Ew no, my pro 750s are prominent, the difference from prominent and forward is significant. Some headphones sound physically distant.
The trait you seem to dislike is what we'd call soundstage size. HD600's soundstage is considerably bigger than the Pro 750's, attributing to the "distance" percieved in them by comparison. Grados, as you mentioned, sound very present because their soundstage lacks size.

Not that a big soundstage is necessarily a desirable trait. Personal preference plays into that alot. The HD800 has a very large soundstage, but there are people that still prefer a slightly more intimate presentation, myself included.
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this thread is damn old but I add my opinion to it whatsoever, as I have bought the 750 and am extremely satisfied with them. Hope this short review of mine (see link) will be useful to some people.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/576342/q701-ultrasone-750-ua25ex#post_7830556


Edited by deafandblind - 12/12/11 at 5:12pm
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