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post #31 of 42
For those who haven't figured it out yet, WindowsX was never known to have the most socially-optimized posts.
post #32 of 42
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All iPods before classic series down to gen3 has the same volume.
That isn't true. I bet all iPods are a tiny bit different. I've found that even my two 5.5G iPods don't have perfectly matched levels. They all require a little bit of adjustment. It isn't easy to do though. It takes careful listening and lots of A/B switching. If you just unplug the amp from one and plug it into the other, it may sound the same, but if you do instantaneous switching from source to source you can hear the slight difference.

A slightly lower volume can make the sound appear to be duller and not as transparent as a slightly louder source. Once the volumes are matched, all the differences in sound fall away.

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Steve
post #33 of 42
strange, my gen3 at half vol of Photo outperformed it significantly...
post #34 of 42
Half the volume? No offense, but are you having trouble understanding what we're talking about or are you just not paying attention?

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Steve
post #35 of 42
You said lower volume can produce poorer sound quality but my gen3 at lower volume sounds better.
post #36 of 42
Lower volume doesn't mean poorer sound quality. It means that in a direct comparison, your ears may misinterpret it as being poorer sound quality. If you balance the levels to make both exactly the same volume, you may find that the differences will disappear. This is a well known psycho-acoustic principle.

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Steve
post #37 of 42
A slightly lower volume can make the sound appear to be duller and not as transparent as a slightly louder source.

I see people contradicting himself...

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X
post #38 of 42
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A slightly lower volume can make the sound appear to be duller and not as transparent as a slightly louder source.

I see people contradicting himself...

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X
really? i didn't.
post #39 of 42
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I see people contradicting himself...
Is English not your primary language? Because if that's the problem, I'd be happy to try to explain it clearer.

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Steve
post #40 of 42
"A slightly lower volume can make the sound appear to be duller and not as transparent as a slightly louder source."

Assuming it's true, iPod gen3 with lower volume should have greater chance to sound worse or the same to gen4 but my impression said gen3 is still better even at softer volume. So bigshot's statement couldn't be true from my testing.

For proper English, "I see someone trying to make a contradiction to himself". Is that correct now, teacher bigshot?

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X
post #41 of 42
I'm sorry. I haven't agreed to teach you yet. Are you ready to learn?

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Steve
post #42 of 42
What he's saying is that if you have two sources you're listening to and one of them has a slightly lower volume than the other (assuming an AB type experiment), you will probably think the quieter one sounds "worse" simply because the louder one sounds "better."

He wasn't saying that your 3g sounds better listening at lower volumes compared to listening to a 4g at lower volumes.

I can confirm that what he says is right, it's just what our ears and brains do, hence why level matching is so important.
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