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Best headphone for Metal music ?

post #1 of 57
Thread Starter 
So
What will you take if you want to hear Metal music at its best ?
The grado?
AKG?
or what?
And what model?
Also
putting it on a Naim headline with the High Cap power should do it ?
(and a good CDP source)
post #2 of 57
My experience with metal on headphones is that the more you upgrade your equipment, the less you'll enjoy the music. Like it or not, 90% of metal is badly recorded and/or the production sucks, so good equipment will show the flaws more easily than entry level phones.

My suggestion would be something like a pair of KSC-75 or Grado SR60.
post #3 of 57
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Originally Posted by gp_hebert View Post
My experience with metal on headphones is that the more you upgrade your equipment, the less you'll enjoy the music. Like it or not, 90% of metal is badly recorded and/or the production sucks, so good equipment will show the flaws more easily than entry level phones.

My suggestion would be something like a pair of KSC-75 or Grado SR60.
agreed. i am not too pleased with metal on my e5c, but on the dt770 it sounds great!

edit: that may be a little short sighted. the e5 does sound a bit too dry for metal, but i cant say if any other brand/flavor of headphone would do the same.
post #4 of 57
Oddly, I really enjoyed metal on My Ultrasones, AKG K701's, and DX1000's. Running them from a tube amp, with a good CDP as source, as well as using PC as source with ALAC files.
post #5 of 57
i enjoyed metal on sr80 and sr325i. however, i preferred sennheisers (hd580 and hd650) for symphonic metal.
i recently fell in love with alessandro ms2, re-discovering my metallica collection.
also, this might sound weird but i really like beyer dt990 for rock music also.
post #6 of 57
Sadly, as a professed metalhead, I have to agree with gp_hebert. Most metal is recorded so compressed for loudness that it loses all dynamics, and this winds up sounding lousy in comparison to well-recorded, dynamic recordings. I've been listening to more folk, jazz, etc. as a result of just how poor metal sounds in comparison on my rig. I still love stuff like Meshuggah and Opeth, but wish there were more dynamic recordings without the damn compression.

That said, some of the best sounding metal albums I've heard are Metallica's and Rage Against The Machine's self-titled albums. Both were recorded in the early 90's before the Loudness Wars began, and both sound wonderful.

IMO, AKG headphones would be VERY POORLY suited to metal. AKGs seem to be very detailed but lacking in warmth. You need something more forgiving of hot mastering and with good impact on the low end. If you're going high-end, Sennheisers would be a better fit than AKG's, but will also be more likely to show too much of the flaws in the recordings.

The one or two times I tried Grados they seemed a little light on the low-end, but that may have been a factor of the other parts in the rig. Never been a Grado fan, though.

I use Future Sonics Atrio m5 in-ear monitors. At about half the price of these high end open cans, I still get a good amount of detail while being a little more forgiving with hot recordings (it can still hurt, though) and providing wonderfully satisfying bass response. Almost everything else I've heard seems to have a thin low-end for my taste, though I've never considered the Atrio to be boomy.

Hope that helps!

BTW, check the link in my sig for my playlists to see the kind of stuff I listen to. That should help qualify my preference.
post #7 of 57
Thread Starter 
Amm
Thanks for the replays
As for the headphone
Well I am not only metal dude
I listen to symphonic metal
And Classic Rock and some classic music
So I want something to be good for all of them
(and female voices)
Just some of my styles
Manowar, Iron Maiden, ACDC, NightWish, Rhapsody, Inflames, Guns and Roses,virgin Steele, Savatage, Beethoven, Mozart, vivaldi and much much more
Oh
And I also love some country music (new stuff) like Tim mcgraw, Kenny chsney , Dierks Bentely, and so on

It must be open air, full size headphones, I really dislike closed ones or ones that get into your ears and so on

And what amp will you put it on to make the best out of it ?
(with a lot of strong power sound and mighty Volume)
post #8 of 57
I listen melodic power speed metal, Stratovarius, Heavenly, Vision Divine, Rhapsody, Axel Rudy Pell, Sonata Actica, Nightwish, Edguy, Avantasia, Power Quest, Dreamtale, Dark Moor, Manowar etc...I realy enjoy this with my Grado SR225, but Grado has different characteristic sound then other phones, I like them very much with rock and metal. I heard (close) Denon D2000 by my friend one hour, great phone, full, rich, dynamic sound.
post #9 of 57
Again, I'd say that the Sennheisers would be a better choice than AKGs for ALL of these styles. They just have a more natural-sounding low-end, IMO. They're certainly not lacking in detail, though. I'd say that the AKGs would be TOO detailed for metal to be even remotely tolerable. Trust me on this one: you'll want something with some warmth, or it will be unbearable.

It's worth mentioning that even neo-classical and power metal bands have their albums mastered too loudly. Nightwish, Rhapsody, Within Temptation, and CERTAINLY bands like In Flames are guilty of this. All these bands compromise the dynamics of their recordings by trying to make them LOUDER for people with crappy stereo systems to be able to hear it. You might have better luck with GnR, ironically, since their material was recorded prior to the whole Loudness War fiasco.
post #10 of 57
you guys think symphonic metal like nightwish sounds better on sens?

perhaps thats where im going wrong
post #11 of 57
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you guys think symphonic metal like nightwish sounds better on sens?

perhaps thats where im going wrong
Better than on AKGs, yes. Probably better than on UEs. Will it sound GOOD on Sennheisers? Ehh... Again, good Senns are going to show off the limitations of the source material, so the higher quality the 'phones, the worse most metal (especially stuff from the past 10-15 years) is going to sound, especially in relation to well-recorded, dynamic music.

I've simply found Senns to be warmer than many other headphones I've come across. That's really going to be necessary for being able to tolerate recent metal releases. Of the open phones I've heard, these would be more forgiving.
post #12 of 57
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Originally Posted by Al4x View Post
you guys think symphonic metal like nightwish sounds better on sens?

perhaps thats where im going wrong
I had the HD600 with a M^3 amp and it didn't handle fast metal very well. I don't know exactly how to describe it, but I'd say the Senns put "weight" where there shouldn't be any, especially in the bass and percussion. In heavy metal, bass and drums should be tight and fast and I didn't get that feeling on the HD600. Stax, on the other hand...
post #13 of 57
to my ears, symphonic metal sounds completely different coming from higher-end sennheisers compared to grados. i tried listening to akg k701, and its lack of quantity in bass just satisfy my taste.
to me, huge soundstaging is very important when it comes to symphonic metal, and grados bring out little soundstage.
on the other hand, fast/speed metal sounds excellent on grados.
post #14 of 57
Don't forget to add the Ultrasone 780 to your list.
post #15 of 57
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Don't forget to add the Ultrasone 780 to your list.
Are you on Ultrasone payroll or something? It seems like you suggest Ultrasone in every thread you participate in without ever doing any comparisons or backing up your suggestions.
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