Originally Posted by deltarocket
Justt o be clear, I'm not hating on C.F., I am responding to the post regarding a "good" bike for 2K +/-. You can get a low end C.F. bike for that, but low end components are not good for Tri's. Shimon Sora/Tiagra just are not durable enough and oh they are heavy. You can get a great steel bike, by a great manufacturer with 105 or more like Ultegra components for likely 1200/1300 on either EBay or CL. That added to the fact that good steel bikes are not Clydesdales makes it a good value. With respect to the fatigue issue, I ride a lot. More than 15,000 miles a year, and I still have many of my older bikes. I contend that unless you are a professional, wearing out a steel bike is unlikely. Finally, there was a article written abd published in Bicycle magazine last year regarding C.F. repair, it's advanced to the point that if you use a qualified shop, the repair is strong and likely not noticeable if the bike is repainted. Best to all, no C.F. hating here
I shouldn't have used that word, just like hutnicks said it's used way too often in the wrong context. English is not my first language and as such I'm prone to mistakes and I guess that was one.
I have to say that I'm not hyping CF either, I just think that when it's well made by qualified frame makers, such as Colnago or Time etc, its strengths overcome its weaknesses. Then again, isn't that the case of any of today's materials?
I don't have a clue about how the used bikes market in the U.S. is, but here you can get pretty much any material you want, even with the best groupsets (Ti apart, perhaps) for 2000$ as long as you don't mind getting 5 years old bikes.
I had found a magnificent Pesenti Fly (Al, beryllium another interesting alloy) for 1000 bucks (with a recent athena gruppo and handmade open pros...), sadly it was way too small for me...
Best to all too !