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post #46 of 73
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I am still concerned about the quality of the stock tone arm and I also do not like how the RCA interconnects are directly connected with no say in using something else.
Needle Doctor usually have the Origin Live OL1 version of the Rega RB250 tonearm for less than 250USD. Add a basic 50 dollar cart like the AT95 or Grado to this and you've got a combo that will sound way better than a rewired Technics arm with an expensive Ortofon cart, or indeed a Rega P3 with the same cart. People don't realise this but the stylus can only work as well as the arm allows.
post #47 of 73
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Memepool, that is some good advice. Do you know if they will install the arm at Needle Doctor if you buy it all at once thru them. That might be a good option for me.
post #48 of 73
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Originally Posted by Pangaea View Post
I think the only thing I am interested in upgrading on the 1200 is the arm or at least the wiring done by KAB. I have a nice Furman power conditioner and that is as far as I want to take the power, and I realize a lot of people will disagree with that but as far as that part goes my decision is made. I am still concerned about the quality of the stock tone arm and I also do not like how the RCA interconnects are directly connected with no say in using something else. Anyway - this is def a tough decision. I appreciate everyones feedback.
If you are bound and determined to stick with the stock tonearm, I would think you would want to go with the $169 Cardas tonearm rewire first. You will still need to consider the Denon cartridges above because they match the tonearm. You could also use whatever Kevin recommends. If you want to increase your cartridge choices, you will want the $149 tonearm fluid dampener. Keep in mind that the $318 you just spent to try and fix the stock tonearm will get you into new tonearm territory.You probably can't go wrong either way. The Technics 1200 MKII is a very nice turntable.
post #49 of 73
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I am really not bound and determined to stick to the tonearm, I would just like to find a vendor that can possible assemble the TT the way I want it rather than have it show up in different pieces. If there is a vendor that will install the Rega tonearm prior to shipment I would love to know about it.
post #50 of 73
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Memepool, that is some good advice. Do you know if they will install the arm at Needle Doctor if you buy it all at once thru them. That might be a good option for me.
Changing the tonearm on the Technics is actually easier than changing a cartridge. You have to loosen and retighten about 25 socket head cap screws with allen wrenches which I believe are supplied with the OL arm board and it takes about an hour. It's really fairly easy. Anybody can do it.
post #51 of 73
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Originally Posted by Pangaea View Post
Memepool, that is some good advice. Do you know if they will install the arm at Needle Doctor if you buy it all at once thru them. That might be a good option for me.
I know that *anonymous employee* at the ND has an RB250 arm on his technics. I'd bet if you ask nice that they'd help you out.

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Originally Posted by ssportclay View Post
My Technics 1200 with an Origin Live Silver tonearm
That's what I'm talking about! I don't understand the PS upgrade, but I've never been a fan of the technics arm and an origin live sounds like a good ticket.

Did your XB look something like this?



(no, not the baby, the deck on the upper right!)
post #52 of 73
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Originally Posted by shallbehealed View Post
I know that *anonymous employee* at the ND has an RB250 arm on his technics. I'd bet if you ask nice that they'd help you out.



That's what I'm talking about! I don't understand the PS upgrade, but I've never been a fan of the technics arm and an origin live sounds like a good ticket.

Did your XB look something like this?



(no, not the baby, the deck on the upper right!)
It looks familiar.
post #53 of 73
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Did your XB look something like this?
I've always had a fondness for AR turntables. They were one of the few American decks which were vaguely affordable in the UK.

In fact I remember first hearing an AR Legend, as it was called over here, when I was just a few years older than the child in that picture playing some Vangelis I think. It was one of the first things that arroused my interest in record players.

Vintage Turntables For Vinyl Nirvana

These guys do some great makeovers on old AR decks, usually starting with, you guessed it, a Rega arm upgrade !

If I lived in the US I'd much prefer one of these to a modern deck like a Music Hall or whatever, they have so much more character.
post #54 of 73
The XB in the picture is currently running a cheap AT conical and the signal is then combined for mono. It was my third AR and cost me the whopping sum of $40, as much as I paid for the first two combined. I recently picked up a XA from the original owner that has a complete dustcover for $25. I bought it to part it out, but I've been too much of romantic about how it needs to stay together.
post #55 of 73
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Well to update this thread- and I certainly went back and forth since I started it I have decided to get the Technics 2100 mk2 with KAB updates (specifically the tonearm cardas rewire and KAB/Stanton Discmaster V3 AE Cartridge). I really appreciate everyone's input. I think this will be the best option for me as it is by far the best foundation and I can still do some stuff to it down the road. But most of all I like the idea that right out of the box will be an incredibly sounding vinyl source.
post #56 of 73
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Well to update this thread- and I certainly went back and forth since I started it I have decided to get the Technics 2100 mk2 with KAB updates (specifically the tonearm cardas rewire and KAB/Stanton Discmaster V3 AE Cartridge).
Do you mean the 1200 mk2?
post #57 of 73
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I think I should just put in my sig-"I'm dyslexic." I do that a lot.

yes 1200.

Thanks...
post #58 of 73
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My KAB modded Technics finally arrived. Kevin had to wait on the plates for the Cardas recable mod so it took awhile since I last posted. Well worth the wait. Posted some pics over in another thread but thought I would put the link here as well...
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/pos...ml#post4700311
post #59 of 73
Congrats on your new table!

I ordered one of those from KAB about a month ago; hopefully it won't be much longer. I went for the outboard PSU, tonearm fluid dampner and the threaded record clamp too. He warned me it may take awhile for the threaded record clamp. I'm pretty eager for this thing--my Marantz 6100 is on its last leg.
post #60 of 73
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Originally Posted by Pangaea View Post
Well to update this thread- and I certainly went back and forth since I started it I have decided to get the Technics 2100 mk2 with KAB updates (specifically the tonearm cardas rewire and KAB/Stanton Discmaster V3 AE Cartridge). I really appreciate everyone's input. I think this will be the best option for me as it is by far the best foundation and I can still do some stuff to it down the road. But most of all I like the idea that right out of the box will be an incredibly sounding vinyl source.
Hey man, awesome! Glad to see that you got the real value table instead of one of those so-called entry level audiophile tables like the Rega, where you get so much less for your money. And unlike the entry level Rega/Pro-Ject/etc., the table itself on that Technics is no limiting factor in terms of engineering and quality, and you can comfortable mount ANY arm you may want to later use, be it a $400 arm or a $4000 one, and be confident in that the Technics table is still one of the most well engineered tables around to match with a superbly well engineered arm.

-Chris
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