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post #6631 of 7156
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also th-900 seemed to be faster and less congested. i know which headphone i'm getting next tongue_smile.gif

 

Ha.  Think I'm done with new headphones for a while....got a dacmini px on the way and eyeing a benchmark dac2 as well.  Like the stable of phones I have at the moment though, no desire for the th900 yet.....yet:)

post #6632 of 7156

^(@dubstep) but is it worth the 2k when compared to its similarly priced? Like LCD 3? Would it be a trade off where its two equal phones with different styles or does it LCD 3 outperform Th900 in general like it does with D7000. No doubt that TH900 is an amazinig pair of phones though.

post #6633 of 7156
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Originally Posted by meyner View Post

^(@dubstep) but is it worth the 2k when compared to its similarly priced? Like LCD 3? Would it be a trade off where its two equal phones with different styles or does it LCD 3 outperform Th900 in general like it does with D7000. No doubt that TH900 is an amazinig pair of phones though.

 

is it worth the 2k? i think it is if you enjoy listening to mainstream and bass heavy music and if you enjoy a V shaped/consumer presentation or just a bassier presentation, or if you just wanted an improvement over the d7k because you like them so much.  however, i think LCD-3 is still better overall. i didn't listen long enough to really give a definite answer. but i feel that the LCD-3 will still outperform the th-900, though the TH-900 definitely feels high end now, whereas the D7000 was slightly below the other flagships in terms of resolution and quality.

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As i love my D2000 headphones that i modded with D7000 cups, (although i love my HE-500 more) i have on multiple occassions contemplated purchasing a D7000 (in the near future) or TH9000 (slightly furthur away future) only to be reminded of other headphones near the price range of those two phones like HE-500, LCD 2/3, or HD 800. I wouldn't mind it so much if it was just a equal phone with different style but the general consensus from what i see here on the forums is that it just gets out performed in general. This has been such a discouraging factor for me to obtain either of those headphones. Not to say its not worth it but considering the limitations of my wallet (especially as a comp sci grad student) it kinda makes me feel like i would be making a mistake to buy the th900 or D7000 unless i already have the previously mentioned phones, or i absolutely dislike the style of all the previously mentioned phones, or i have good income.

 

but perhaps i am wrong?

post #6635 of 7156
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As i love my D2000 headphones that i modded with D7000 cups, (although i love my HE-500 more) i have on multiple occassions contemplated purchasing a D7000 (in the near future) or TH9000 (slightly furthur away future) only to be reminded of other headphones near the price range of those two phones like HE-500, LCD 2/3, or HD 800. I wouldn't mind it so much if it was just a equal phone with different style but the general consensus from what i see here on the forums is that it just gets out performed in general. This has been such a discouraging factor for me to obtain either of those headphones. Not to say its not worth it but considering the limitations of my wallet (especially as a comp sci grad student) it kinda makes me feel like i would be making a mistake to buy the th900 or D7000 unless i already have the previously mentioned phones, or i absolutely dislike the style of all the previously mentioned phones, or i have good income.

 

but perhaps i am wrong?

 

Understand that at some point its a preference.  You can have technically capable phones that check all the boxes, measure well, blah blah blah....that you may not like.  Some of these options may also require higher end (priced) upstream equipment to make worthwhile.

 

I think the Denon line does bass in a way that no other phone I've tried does.  No perhaps not as accurate or natural as some, but I will keep them for just this reason.  If I could only choose 1 full sized it would be the T1....but thankfully for the time being variety is an option.

post #6636 of 7156
^ +1 definitely

exactly was i was going to say, t1 my fav as well. and denon definitely has a very unique presentation. no other headphone does the bass like them
post #6637 of 7156
Agreed, only 1 = T1 ...

BUT I'm very glad that I'm lucky enough to have additional cans because I really really enjoy the D7K. For what I use them - rock music, live concerts, cello, plugged into some vintage iron - they are better and bring me more joy than any other cans I have or have had. They are gorgeous, comfortable, and their imperfections add to their appeal for me.
post #6638 of 7156

mmm i c. I personally could not stand the T1. (had similar impression with the HD800) I audited it with  a beyer A1 amp  from a headphone shop for about an hour. Maybe i didn't listen long enough? maybe it was because i had no dedicated DAC? (listened to the music off of my ipod which means 320 bit files instead of flac as well - ipod -> amp -> headphone ) I do not know. But i tried my hardest to enjoy them for an hour but to me it just sounded so boring and did not appeal enough considering the cost. Not to say it sounded bad. Maybe i am biased more towards colored music because i throughly enjoyed the LCD 2 and the HE-5LE that i audited there using the same equipment in comparison. But i must say there is no competition when it comes to comfort.


Edited by meyner - 6/26/13 at 12:45am
post #6639 of 7156
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mmm i c. I personally could not stand the T1. (had similar impression with the HD800) I audited it with  a beyer A1 amp  from a headphone shop for about an hour. Maybe i didn't listen long enough? maybe it was because i had no dedicated DAC? (listened to the music off of my ipod which means 320 bit files instead of flac as well - ipod -> amp -> headphone ) I do not know. But i tried my hardest to enjoy them for an hour but to me it just sounded so boring and did not appeal enough considering the cost. Not to say it sounded bad. Maybe i am biased more towards colored music because i throughly enjoyed the LCD 2 and the HE-5LE that i audited there using the same equipment in comparison. But i must say there is no competition when it comes to comfort.

 

I agree. I just don't really think a dynamic flagship (t1 or hd800) can compete with a planar headphone.

post #6640 of 7156
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i throughly enjoyed the LCD 2 and the HE-5LE that i audited there using the same equipment in comparison. But i must say there is no competition when it comes to comfort.

Did you find the impact of the planers more appealing or their speed/transient response? If you're willing to give up a little impact it's probably time you went electrostatic (re: the comfort comment).

I'd love Fostex to produce a new BioDyna that reaches the same level of performance as the MDR-R10, even if it has the Fostex house signature. Of course they'd have to change their mounting design and likely housing too to achieve that level of excellence..
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well i have always been very intrigued with electro static but i am poor at the moment since im a grad student. Perhaps i can acquire the phones but i am not confident that i can also acquire the equipment necessary for a electro static headphone. It is also been a small dream of mine to atleast audit some well reputed stax phones but i have yet to have that opportunity. You know if there are places in austin or houston where i can audit such equipment? Cause if i fall in love with them i may have to scrap my near future plans to purchase a pair of LCD 2.2 to go with my HE-500

 

lol if fostex created something similar to MDR-R10 like you wanted how much do you think they would put the price tag as? 

post #6642 of 7156

Probably at least $3,000. The MDR-R10 was exceptionally well-engineered, but most importantly it showcased that it was possible to achieve exceptional performance with a dynamic driver. The TH-900 isn't really close despite Fostex's pedigree and decades of experience. The D7000 is still a clear tier below the HD 800 and T1, and IMHO the TH-900 sits between that difference.


Edited by 3X0 - 6/26/13 at 4:35am
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Yet the TH900 sits above D7000, HD 800, and T1 in terms of price. wink_face.gif

 

As much as i enjoy the eye candy like finishing touches of the TH900 i wish they held back on the exterior luxury more to make it a bit cheaper so the price wouldn't be so prohibitive. It only makes sense that as a flagship like phone its supposed to be expensive but srsly, the price difference between TH900 and T1, HD800 is a little too big to be reasonable in my books.

post #6644 of 7156
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

Probably at least $3,000. The MDR-R10 was exceptionally well-engineered, but most importantly it showcased that it was possible to achieve exceptional performance with a dynamic driver. The TH-900 isn't really close despite Fostex's pedigree and decades of experience. The D7000 is still a clear tier below the HD 800 and T1, and IMHO the TH-900 sits between that difference.

 

The R10 was a project, similar to the Orpheus. It wasn't meant to be mass produced and therefore stretched the bounds of sound quality via a dynamic driver. Sony gave the group of engineers a blank check to create the best headphone they could, and it turned out to be a revolutionary one. I feel as though the TH-900 is a completely different beast. First of all, their sound is completely different. They both offer unbelievable clarity and detail for closed back designs.

 

Personally, I've owned/own all three of those headphones mentioned (T1, HD800, TH-900), and for general use I would pick the TH-900. The HD800 continues to be my reference style headphone, the go-to for testing tracks because of its unbelievable airyness and soundstage. Honestly for the average listener that just loves to listen to music the TH-900 will probably deliver the most enjoyable experience. The T1 was good, but wasn't on the same level as the TH-900 or the HD800 for me. You also have to factor in the immense amount of money you have to spend to really take the HD800 and the T1 to the next level. The TH-900 is a lot easier to amp/dac match, and in the end sounds really good out of a DAP alone. Personally the cost the TH-900 is high, but worth it for the heavy enthusiast. Plus, if you're considering the TH-900... don't pay full retail price. It is silly, when you can buy them new for $1500 and used for $1300. 


Edited by Greed - 6/26/13 at 10:25am
post #6645 of 7156
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Originally Posted by meyner View Post

well i have always been very intrigued with electro static but i am poor at the moment since im a grad student. Perhaps i can acquire the phones but i am not confident that i can also acquire the equipment necessary for a electro static headphone. It is also been a small dream of mine to atleast audit some well reputed stax phones but i have yet to have that opportunity. You know if there are places in austin or houston where i can audit such equipment? Cause if i fall in love with them i may have to scrap my near future plans to purchase a pair of LCD 2.2 to go with my HE-500

 

lol if fostex created something similar to MDR-R10 like you wanted how much do you think they would put the price tag as? 


There's one for sale on Head Fi for $5500 I believe blink.gif........................if I were a rich man I'd buy it just to hear it. 

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