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post #6331 of 7196

For me, burn-in of the D7k was minimal, if at all. I don't know that I can say that they changed in any substantive way in the years that I've had them, or even in the first days of use.

post #6332 of 7196

I've heard slight changes in things before, but most say these really change a lot in the first few hundred hours. I'm really not sure how much of 'burn in' is psychological and how much is real but I think in the first 7 hours they do sound different, but whether that will continue or not I've no idea.

post #6333 of 7196

Ok, have about 14 hours on these now, they've opened up a bit and sound much more like/same as the the ones I used for demo in the store. The biggest change though, and it is remarkably noticeable, is the bass response - it's toned down, much tighter, less flabby, less resonance/boominess. They are just sounding insanely good to me right now.

 

Listening to Tool - Reflection from Lateralus was over the top yesterday, there was almost painful SPL's beyond a given (relatively low) volume, but today it sounds much more accurate and the drums are much tighter and I can enjoy it at normal listening volume.


Edited by phonyx - 4/5/13 at 7:47am
post #6334 of 7196
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Ok, have about 14 hours on these now, they've opened up a bit and sound much more like/same as the the ones I used for demo in the store. The biggest change though, and it is remarkably noticeable, is the bass response - it's toned down, much tighter, less flabby, less resonance/boominess. They are just sounding insanely good to me right now.

Listening to Tool - Reflection from Lateralus was over the top yesterday, there was almost painful SPL's beyond a given (relatively low) volume, but today it sounds much more accurate and the drums are much tighter and I can enjoy it at normal listening volume.

Supposedly if what people say is true continue burning in! Maybe try might get EVEN better and I ally you can compare them to the hd650 and LCD-2 for me haha.
post #6335 of 7196

Well for me already they blow the HD650 out of the water. Much more fun, and make all my music sound great and they are super comfortable. The LCD-2 I don't know well enough to make any comparisons, I only heard them once a year or so ago listening to tracks I'd never heard before! I do remember they sounded good but at 2K+ they were way out of my budget. I didn't like how they fitted though, felt like they were always falling off.

post #6336 of 7196
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Well for me already they blow the HD650 out of the water. Much more fun, and make all my music sound great and they are super comfortable. The LCD-2 I don't know well enough to make any comparisons, I only heard them once a year or so ago listening to tracks I'd never heard before! I do remember they sounded good but at 2K+ they were way out of my budget. I didn't like how they fitted though, felt like they were always falling off.

Cool.
post #6337 of 7196
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I wasn't deeply impressed with the TH900. At that price point, I was expecting myself to be blown away but it just sounded 'quite nice' to me when I paired it with Fostex HP-A8C and Yamamoto HA-02. I found it too polite and refined to the point of being a tad boring. I have not heard D7000 yet but I found D5000 to be far more engaging and fun to listen with across all genres.

Interesting. I enjoy the sound of the D7000 very much, but I missed my D5000 because of the bass. While I agree with the majority of the people ensuring that the bass of the D5000 is fun but muddy, I consider this to be fun and fat-sounding. After purchasing a D7000, it took me about almost a year to consider selling the D5000. It took me a long while to even appreciate D7000's signature sound, and it was because I realized it was picky with amp selection.

I recently purchased a brand new Sony MDR-CD3000 headphones. This pair impressed me because it triumphs over D5000's sound, including the fat bass, so I no longer miss my D5000.

I hear great things about the TH900, but I am going to refrain from listening to it as long as possible. I love my D7000's too much.
Edited by gzone3lement - 4/8/13 at 1:58pm
post #6338 of 7196
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Interesting. I enjoy the sound of the D7000 very much, but I missed my D5000 because of the bass. While I agree with the majority of the people ensuring that the bass of the D5000 is fun but muddy, I consider this to be fun and fat-sounding. After purchasing a D7000, it took me about almost a year to consider selling the D5000. It took me a long while to even appreciate D7000's signature sound, and it was because I realized it was picky with amp selection.

I recently purchased a brand new Sony MDR-CD3000 headphones. This pair impressed me because it triumphs over D5000's sound, including the fat bass, so I no longer miss my D5000.

I hear great things about the TH900, but I am going to refrain from listening to it as long as possible. I love my D7000's too much.

O.o I heard te d5k and found it muffled sounding and closed sounding and also harsh in the highs compared to the spacious dark hd650s. I admired the d5ks bass though its terrific (bass head here lol). However, with all it's cons and a higher price tag than the hd650 I find it not worth it. Hmm.... Wonder if the d7k would solve my problem.

Well, quoting from others, basically the th-900 is a more refined d7k with less bass larger soundstage + more refinement. I think.
post #6339 of 7196
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O.o I heard te d5k and found it muffled sounding and closed sounding and also harsh in the highs compared to the spacious dark hd650s. I admired the d5ks bass though its terrific (bass head here lol). However, with all it's cons and a higher price tag than the hd650 I find it not worth it. Hmm.... Wonder if the d7k would solve my problem.

Well, quoting from others, basically the th-900 is a more refined d7k with less bass larger soundstage + more refinement. I think.

^ I would say significantly less bass distortion...not so much "less bass".

post #6340 of 7196
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

^ I would say significantly less bass distortion...not so much "less bass".

 

Sooooo in other words less bass. rolleyes.gif

post #6341 of 7196
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Originally Posted by Graphicism View Post

 

Sooooo in other words less bass. rolleyes.gif

No, I didn't say that. 

 

 

 

Check out the really low distortion on the TH-900s:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf

vs.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/DenonAHD7000B2012.pdf

 

The higher distortion makes the bass sound "fatter" on the D7000s, but there is no more "real bass" present. FWIW, I've owned the D7000s twice and have the TH-900s now. I've A-B'd them a few times too in the past.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 4/8/13 at 6:05pm
post #6342 of 7196
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No, I didn't say that. 





Check out the really low distortion on the TH-900s:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf
vs.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/DenonAHD7000B2012.pdf

The higher distortion makes the bass sound "fatter" on the D7000s, but there is no more "real bass" present. FWIW, I've owned the D7000s twice and have the TH-900s now. I've A-B'd them a few times too in the past.

So realistic bass? But because it is realistic it SEEMS less????
post #6343 of 7196
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

The higher distortion makes the bass sound "fatter" on the D7000s, but there is no more "real bass" present. FWIW, I've owned the D7000s twice and have the TH-900s now. I've A-B'd them a few times too in the past.

 

I don't understand what you're saying, I'm not even sure you do looking at the frequency responce you posted. From the looks of it the TH-900 have a +10dB boost on both the sub and mid-bass, are you saying they have boosted bass like the Sony XBs for instance?

post #6344 of 7196

I think it's pretty clear what he's saying.  

post #6345 of 7196
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I think it's pretty clear what he's saying.  

 

Oh well explained, thanks for clearing that up.

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