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post #6256 of 7156
I can't agree with that LCD2 vs Pro 900 comparison. The Pro 900 hits...unnaturally hard. It's a sledgehammer in midbass at all times, though for some reason, not in a fatiguing way. The LCD2 hits VERY hard, nd it's quite impressive, but it's still in the realm of being natural.

Yes, there is no comparison, the LCD2's mid bass smokes the D7000's.

The D7000's smokes the LCD2 in the sub bass bloom, treble extension (not as much when compared to the vegan LCD2 which extends quite well itself), air/soundstage, and overall fun.

Graphicism, I was goingto trade the LCD2 for a D7000, but I decided against it. Now, I'm waiting for Justin to trade me one of his leather LCD2s for this vegan. I miss the sound of the leathers, even if it's inferior to the vegan overall. I prefer it's warmth, in your face mids, and less fatiguing treble.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/25/13 at 12:06am
post #6257 of 7156
Awkward huh. When I was listening to the midbass of the lcd2 the impression was meh~ but the rest was like holy crops this shut is good. But well maybe I was wrong? Could it be the amp pairing? I was listening to it through a naim dac and rsa Darkstar out of an iMac, does the Darkstar reduce bass?
post #6258 of 7156
Awkward huh. When I was listening to the midbass of the lcd2 the impression was meh~ but the rest was like holy crops this shut is good. But well maybe I was wrong? Could it be the amp pairing? I was listening to it through a naim dac and rsa Darkstar out of an iMac, does the Darkstar reduce bass?

For the LCD 2 I'm not talking abt impact here more of quantity....
post #6259 of 7156

yeah figured no1 was gonna agree on the pro 900  vs .lcd-2 comparison i made. thats just what i heard though, of course, my pro 900 sounded terrible, probably bad tube/amp combo at the time. 

 

the pro 900s do hit harder, but they didnt seem to cause at the same time, the bass lacked tightness and definition,  so to me, it sounded bloatier and boomier. 

 

and well, the LCD-2 hits harder than any of my other headphones.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 3/25/13 at 1:28am
post #6260 of 7156
Oops! I realized my previous post was misleading. I meant u find the LCD 2 to be lacking in midbass quantity not midbass impact. Like what the FR says. I would be prefer maybe like a midbass hump.
post #6261 of 7156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I can't agree with that LCD2 vs Pro 900 comparison. The Pro 900 hits...unnaturally hard. It's a sledgehammer in midbass at all times, though for some reason, not in a fatiguing way. The LCD2 hits VERY hard, nd it's quite impressive, but it's still in the realm of being natural.

Yes, there is no comparison, the LCD2's mid bass smokes the D7000's.

The D7000's smokes the LCD2 in the sub bass bloom, treble extension (not as much when compared to the vegan LCD2 which extends quite well itself), air/soundstage, and overall fun.

 

I am in agreement with you on these headphones for the most part. The Pro900 is a joke, but it does have a wow factor at first listen. The LCD2 has great mids, all the way through the range from mid bass to mid treble. The D7Ks are the most balanced sounding to me. They aren't perfectly accurate, but as mentioned they do sound great from an opamp and still manage to scale up with quality amplification.

post #6262 of 7156

I thought this would be a good time to post these silly charts:

 

 

 

 

They seem to illustrate that what we hear isn't always verified by measurements.

 

 

 

For reference tongue_smile.gif

post #6263 of 7156

What are you trying to convey by posting the measurements and saying our hearing isn't verified by them?

post #6264 of 7156
The D7000s chart is so wrong, it should be a crime.
post #6265 of 7156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Yes, there is no comparison, the LCD2's mid bass smokes the D7000's.

The D7000's smokes the LCD2 in the sub bass bloom, treble extension (not as much when compared to the vegan LCD2 which extends quite well itself), air/soundstage, and overall fun.

Graphicism, I was goingto trade the LCD2 for a D7000, but I decided against it. Now, I'm waiting for Justin to trade me one of his leather LCD2s for this vegan. I miss the sound of the leathers, even if it's inferior to the vegan overall. I prefer it's warmth, in your face mids, and less fatiguing treble.

 

Have you compared both phones directly? I guess I could say I like the D7000 because there is little/no mid-bass hump, is it always a benefit on the LCD-2 or a hindrance with some songs or even entire genres?

 

Oh you'll come back to the D7000, they all come back! very_evil_smiley.gif

post #6266 of 7156
Oh, I would LOVE to get my hands on the D7000, but I wouldn't wanna trade my LCD2 for it. You could say, they both a have their place for me, if I could afford both of them. For now, I have a need for the LCD2 a little more, even if the D7000 is still my #1. My particular LCD2 is rich in everything, really. Deep bass, hard hitting, good mids, and nice sparkle in the treble. It's very flat in it's response. It doesn't quite grip me the way the D7000 does for my EDM, but the mids and overall tone is more technically accurate and engaging for everything else, while still being damn good for EDM.

The mid-bass isn't ever really an issue with the exception of a few songs where it does bother. That's a personal thing though. Some headphones do mid bass in a way that just irritates my ears. Even the Q701's mid bass fatigued me at times (rarely). Not because it had strong mid bass, but because the way it did it just didn't sit well for me.

You could say I'll aim straight for the TH-900 in the future, which will make the D7000 obsolete, and perhaps even the LCD2. I wish I could audition it. If it was as good as I think it was, I'd probably put my LCD2 up for sale, and call it quits. Thing is, in order for me to be able to spring for it, I'd have to sell my LCD2...
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/25/13 at 10:39am
post #6267 of 7156
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

What are you trying to convey by posting the measurements and saying our hearing isn't verified by them?

 

More like the graphs aren't verified by the consensual reality of what we think we are hearing.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The D7000s chart is so wrong, it should be a crime.

It sure looks that waypopcorn.gif

post #6268 of 7156
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

I thought this would be a good time to post these silly charts:

 

 

 

Frequency response charts on head-fi? Those are some fightin' words right there. 

 

On a side note, why did this thread suddenly get popular? We were running on like 1 post a month. 

post #6269 of 7156


Here's Tyll's graph, which is more or less consistent with how I heard my latter D7000. Still, the sub bass section honestly sounds quite emphasized and not rolled off unlike the graph. I guess the measurements can't hear that sub bass bloom?
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/25/13 at 10:43am
post #6270 of 7156

I think that one thing that separates the D7K from the D2/5K is that they sound remarkable open for a "closed" headphone. And that is probably due to the difference in bass response more than anything else, the bass being lower opens up the imaging in the rest of the spectrum.

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