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post #1441 of 1953
That picture doesn't even need a caption.
post #1442 of 1953
Paperwork all sent to the credit card company. Good times. Phew!
post #1443 of 1953
good luck Icarium. You shouldn't have to pay for that amp, not at those insane prices anyway.
post #1444 of 1953
Anyone care to take a stab at what it is actually worth?
post #1445 of 1953


Shuold have big warning sign attached!
post #1446 of 1953
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Anyone care to take a stab at what it is actually worth?
In this economy? With the pictures? Basically nothing.
post #1447 of 1953
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Anyone care to take a stab at what it is actually worth?
Well, a 2008 rev Square Wave XL balanced with blackgates is $1250 and sounds as good as a $2200 Zana Deux (and $1800 Melos SHA Gold), and the SS-1 has 6 SqW boards in it and should sound like a Zana Deux or Melos SHA Gold, so I'd say it's worth $2,200 as I don't see how 6 boards will sound that much better than one balanced board.
post #1448 of 1953
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Well, a 2008 rev Square Wave XL balanced with blackgates is $1250 and sounds as good as a $2200 Zana Deux (and $1800 Melos SHA Gold), and the SS-1 has 6 SqW boards in it and should sound like a Zana Deux or Melos SHA Gold, so I'd say it's worth $2,200 as I don't see how 6 boards will sound that much better than one balanced board.
me thinks you are in the vast minority with your square wave sonic assesment
post #1449 of 1953
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me thinks you are in the vast minority with your square wave sonic assesment
Well, Blutarsky and his wife are in agreement. We thought the Melos had just a slightly deeper soundstage though. Maybe I got a one-off good sounding one with the blackgates, but this amp is right up there with those and we spent time with several mini-meets comparing them and our impressions have not changed. It was also slightly better than plaidplatypus's Headamp Gilmore Reference with Denon D2000 and Edition 9 but a bit better with RS-1 and HD600. And, it sounded just about as good as the Beta 22 with naamanf's K1000 two weeks ago at a meet at my house. I do know that Mikhail made some upgrades to the design after the poor response to it with the march 2007 design. I don't know of anyone who has bought the new designed Sq Wave except for me.
post #1450 of 1953
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Well, a 2008 rev Square Wave XL balanced with blackgates is $1250
like everyone else, you have conveniently ignored the fact that the squarewave has everything on 1 board, where each phase in this amp is on its own board.

Im seriously not a fan of mikhails buisness practices (and I have bought gear from him a couple times), but i would give him credit as a designer to make more than 1 discrete design.
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and sounds as good as a $2200 Zana Deux (and $1800 Melos SHA Gold),
i did nto agree from my listening.
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and the SS-1 has 6 SqW boards in it and should sound like a Zana Deux or Melos SHA Gold
well which will it be? The 2 amps are pretty distinct. The melos has slightly loose and on certain days artificially "impactful" through this looseness bass with a slight softness extending up and through the whole range, where the zana has a tight lock on any sound passing and slightly brittle trebble. care to make another GUESS?
post #1451 of 1953
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like everyone else, you have conveniently ignored the fact that the squarewave has everything on 1 board, where each phase in this amp is on its own board.

Im seriously not a fan of mikhails buisness practices (and I have bought gear from him a couple times), but i would give him credit as a designer to make more than 1 discrete design.

bwahahaaaa

well which will it be? The 2 amps are pretty distinct. The melos has slightly loose and on certain days artificially "impactful" through this looseness bass with a slight softness extending up and through the whole range, where the zana has a tight lock on any sound passing and slightly brittle trebble. care to make another GUESS?
No, I guess I wont make guess what the SS-1 is worth then. I admit it's possible for the SS-1 to sound better than the amps I am comparing to my particular Sq Wave XL. I also should note that I only use my Sq Wave with balanced headphones at homes, and it is not quite as good when single ended, yet with Grados it still competed well with the Zana and Melos. For instance, single ended I prefer my HD600 on the WA6, Zana or Melos, but balanced I prefer them on the Sq Wave XL. The Melos does a nice trick and can drive the HD600 balanced from it's preamp XLR-out better than any of these amps can drive them, SE or balanced. It just seems to get more spacious and 3D than ever before. I have it here with me right now, as Bluto left it with me after the meet 2 weeks ago to play with till he gets back from a 2 week trip.

But, Blutarsky's Melos with the Siemens tubes sounds pretty tight, and about 1% better than his Zana Deux if I had to put a number on that difference, due to the slightly richer mids and brittle lower treble we heard in Zana (with HD600, HP-1000, PS-1 and RS-1 that we used each time for the comparisons). And I like his Zana because it was the first amp I heard the HD650 on where I liked the HD650.

You could read our Colorado mini-meet reports in the meets impressions forum if you are interested at all in what we thought about them. Those meets were invaluable to me in helping me tune my WA6 with the right tubes. The amps were more similar than they are different, but I will agree they are not identical in sound, especially the WA6 which was still too boomy in the bass with the PS-1 compared to the Zana and Melos and Sq Wave.

Signing off now.
post #1452 of 1953
I just learned that SP is still making and delivering PPXs and MPX3s. I am really glad to hear that, as these amps - which were once the bread and butter of SP - are outstanding. It would be sad to see them go.
post #1453 of 1953
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I just learned that SP is still making and delivering PPXs and MPX3s. I am really glad to hear that, as these amps - which were once the bread and butter of SP - are outstanding. It would be sad to see them go.
Source? I'm still waiting to get my amp shipped back to me...
post #1454 of 1953
I don't understand how anybody dares to buy these things new, with pictures here of seriously damaged gear. Maybe people have more money to gamlbe with than I have.
post #1455 of 1953
Thrill seekers?
<engage sarcasm>
I bought a SinglePower amp and all i've got is this POS?
<sarcasm over>
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