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post #16 of 205
Love the new headphone jack.

Another reason for the lower cost would be economies of scale. By my humble assessment, the screen is likely the most expensive part. The first gen likely paid the R&D, tooling, etc. for it. Remember, it was a US only launch - if it didn't go well it would have not gone international.

But the risk paid off, and now it is going to 76 countries. Further, at $199 they're gong to sell many more of them. So the cost per screen is going to drop significantly.

Also consider that there will be significant revenue from the software coming soon.

I think it is fair to say that the costs have come down and are being spread around. I doubt they would have deliberately cheapened something they're hoping to capture the market with.
post #17 of 205
is this $199 with or without contract?

They say that they are comparing the $399 to $199 for 8gb and you could have bought the iphone with no contract for $399


So, is it safe to assume that it will be $199 contract-less?
post #18 of 205
... Price might tempt me to pick one up. Damn you Apple!
post #19 of 205
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Originally Posted by fatman711 View Post
is this $199 with or without contract?

They say that they are comparing the $399 to $199 for 8gb and you could have bought the iphone with no contract for $399


So, is it safe to assume that it will be $199 contract-less?
With contract I'm afraid. Apple also took measures regarding the jailbreaking populace. Apparently, the iPhones can only be bought at your Apple store or AT&T centers and you have to sign a contract before stepping out the door.

Apple has done it again. I may not be a fan of this particular phone but this pricing is definitely gonna take the regular consumers by storm. "Your own iPhone (and iPod mp3 player in a single package) in just $199."

The lion's share of Nokia and Samsung's market success is from their affordable handsets, not their high end units with better features. Pricing is the key for the average joe consumer if you wanna generate momentum. I'm sure the 8gb iPhone will sell like pancakes.

I'm also expecting iPod touch and Classic price drops later next month.
post #20 of 205
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No ogg/flac. No proper, native im client. No voip. No freedom. No background processes....... No thanks, I say.
Apple isn't a non-profit organisation. They get providers to sponsor the product because it is expected that internet usage will go up dramatically with the new iPhone. Up till now, providers can only generate revenue through voice calls and sms. So if you think that Apple will add a voip client and loose the lucrative deals with the providers or add cost increasing features that most people don't want, think again.
post #21 of 205
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Originally Posted by thread View Post
No ogg/flac. No proper, native im client. No voip. No freedom. No background processes....... No thanks, I say.

I am rather curious if the audio output is any good, though.

I'm definitely due for a phone upgrade, but I'm not really sure what the phone is for me... (It probably doesn't exist yet.)
My biggest fear (which hasn't been mentioned yet) is the "improved audio" claim is only referencing the built-in speaker, and not the quality of the DAC or output. Hopefully I'm wrong.

But, I can't say any of those complaints surprise me. We'll surely see IM clients on the App store, and VOIP is still a possibility. The background process situation has been (slightly) remedied with their introduction of server-side notifications, which is a better alternative in my opinion.

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I'm also expecting iPod touch and Classic price drops later next month.
I doubt that.. Apple hasn't dropped the price in the summer during it's educational deals, but we might see one in September.

Honestly, my only beefs with the phone is the news that contracts will have to be processes in store, and we can't activate the phones via iTunes anymore. This is an obvious attempt to combat unlocking, but it's an inconvenience that I would have preferred not to deal with. The other sad news is that there isn't a 32GB version, but I think that's probably an issue with space more than anything else.
post #22 of 205
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Originally Posted by dgbiker1 View Post
oicdn,
The "catch" is that AT&T is subsidizing the cost of the phone, at a loss of $0.11/share. There's no way they were able to cut the price of the phone in half by replacing the back with plastic, especially a decent quality plastic (it doesn't look like a cheap ABS extrusion). At best, they might have broken even for adding a GPS and/or 3G radio, but I think it was for aesthetic purposes. The back of the original iPhone was pretty ugly with the black plastic "window" for the cell/wifi radios, a uniform all-plastic back is a lot more attractive and in-line with Apple's design conventions.
If you've actually looked at Apple's current lineup of products you'd notice their transition to aluminium, not black/white plastic. Take the iPod, iMac, MacBook Pro and Mac Pro for example. The plastic was probably used to help with the GPS reception, not for aesthetic purposes.
post #23 of 205
the iphone sound is awesome right now. If it's even better, than that will make me :-)
post #24 of 205
The bad July 11 is weeks away.
post #25 of 205
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The other sad news is that there isn't a 32GB version, but I think that's probably an issue with space more than anything else.
I kinda expected this since Apple would have had to raise 32gb iphone prices above the 32gb iPod touch so as not to confuse and compete these two models. Apple is trying to keep iPhone 3G prices as low as possible. I'd imagine the market response towards a 32gb touch if they could instead buy similar storage capacity with a phone feature at similar or lower cost. Eventually, when the iPod touch 2nd gen will be announced this September, with its storage bump, the 32gb iPhone will supposedly follow.
post #26 of 205
I was about to buy new nano, now I'll buy the iPhone and the money that was gonna use for new phone (that I would have bought in any case) will go towards amp., I'm pretty shure it'll sound good amped and the jack isue has been resolved A+.
post #27 of 205
I wasn't referring to the material choice, I meant the design. Everything Apple makes is sleek and simple, and an aluminum back with bits of plastic stuck in for reception isn't very sleek. I agree that it was for reception, but it seems like they could've gone with an aluminum/plastic enclosure if they really wanted an aluminum look.
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Originally Posted by GTRacer View Post
If you've actually looked at Apple's current lineup of products you'd notice their transition to aluminium, not black/white plastic. Take the iPod, iMac, MacBook Pro and Mac Pro for example. The plastic was probably used to help with the GPS reception, not for aesthetic purposes.
post #28 of 205
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Originally Posted by thread View Post
No ogg/flac. No proper, native im client. No voip. No freedom. No background processes....... No thanks, I say.

I am rather curious if the audio output is any good, though.

I'm definitely due for a phone upgrade, but I'm not really sure what the phone is for me... (It probably doesn't exist yet.)
well the additional features are significant, esp the security/enterprise features.

Apple - QuickTime - WWDC 2008 Keynote

watch the streaming video of the event.. jobs is masterful.
post #29 of 205
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Originally Posted by Geir View Post
Get thee behind me in the queue KRmathis. If released at a reasonable price here in Norway, fights will break out....
I certainly don't intend to fight for one.
Its better for them (Eplehuset, Humac, ..) that they have enough of them, so that everyone who want one get one...

It will be a long 30 days wait.. he he
post #30 of 205
Hmm.. I thought this thread would be pretty boring but leave it to a bunch of head-fi's to make it interesting and see angles to this thing I would have never considered! Good thread!

This thing is going to be in a deathmatch with a blackberry when I buy a phone in the fall.
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