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Does the Sony NWZ-A829 support WMA lossless (or any form of lossless for that matter) ?

post #1 of 13
6/5/08 at 12:55pm
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This player looks pretty interesting to me,but information on lossless file support is non-exsistent. No support for lossless in any of these players is an absolute deal breaker for me. Thanks!
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post #2 of 13
6/5/08 at 1:07pm
You can play huge WAV files.
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post #3 of 13
6/5/08 at 2:06pm
Be a shame to pass up on this great-sounding player. Have you considered higher bit rate (320 kbs) MP3s? They sound really really close to lossless.
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post #4 of 13
6/5/08 at 2:10pm
... Also, if you use Bluetooth audio/headphones you are no longer listening to lossless audio anway
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post #5 of 13
6/5/08 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by trickywombat View Post
... Also, if you use Bluetooth audio/headphones you are no longer listening to lossless audio anway
Does any audiophile truly believe that you can absolutely get all the quality you can get from wired devices from wireless? I may use wireless for watching TV, for hq music playback ; Thems fightin words pardoner!
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post #6 of 13
6/5/08 at 5:32pm
If you cannot ABX between LAME -V0 and FLAC, then I see no reason not to pass on the NWZ-A players from Sony for this reason - they are fantastic.
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post #7 of 13
6/6/08 at 2:23am
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Actually, if they will support Wav files as someone mentioned, I see no reason that they wouldn't be compatable w/ WMA Lossless. The reason I asked is because I have been ripping my CDs into WMP 11 & processing them with Burwen Bobcat (which uses WMA Lossless to write the new files which far surpass the original CD when completed). Wav or Flac will work I suppose. Thanks
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post #8 of 13
6/6/08 at 5:21am
^^^^ WAV support doesn't mean WMA Lossless support. It's not a given thing.
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post #9 of 13
6/6/08 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by Podtweaker View Post
The reason I asked is because I have been ripping my CDs into WMP 11 & processing them with Burwen Bobcat (which uses WMA Lossless to write the new files which far surpass the original CD when completed). Wav or Flac will work I suppose. Thanks
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post #10 of 13
6/7/08 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by mule65 View Post
I'm not of the opinion that CDs are the best they can be as we buy them! Just ripping them & burning a CD-R copy will give you lower jitter & a more accurate approximation of the recorded files. The BB processing takes things a bit further than that. I guess it comes down to whether or not regular CD is good enough for you! If you are great;I'm not that impressed w/ standard digital. I roll my eyes at people who want to argue w/ you that 320kbps is good enough. I don't try to convince them of my pov,why do they take it so personally. I honestly don't mind if they are happy. Oh, all right I'm wrong, I can't possibly not be satisfied w/ general opinion. Give me a break. (I apologize for my non-forum specific rant)
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post #11 of 13
6/7/08 at 5:28pm
You can copy a CD to 8-track and play it backwards and call it better than the original if you want. Whatever makes you happy is all that matters. But I can still too.
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post #12 of 13
6/8/08 at 2:23am
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Originally Posted by Podtweaker View Post
Does any audiophile truly believe that you can absolutely get all the quality you can get from wired devices from wireless? I may use wireless for watching TV, for hq music playback ; Thems fightin words pardoner!
theoretically you can.. just not with bluetooth
even uncompressed audio isn't that big a bitstream, its just bluetooth is so pathetic anyways i think its mostly a gimmick considering the limitations of bluetooth headphones and their size/recharge hassles/cost. its not like you are going to really leave your mp3 player in another room, you gotta wear it so you can control it anyways.

anyways, lossless seems pointless really. i think most audiophiles would fail blind tests with even 192kbps lame encoded mp3. let alone when using portable headphones. have you bought some insane uber headphone?

and i wouldn't put effort into backing yourself into a proprietary format corner using wma. pass some blind testing between 320kbps mp3 and wma lossless then decide. otherwise you are just kidding yourself.

as for burwen bobcat, ist just messing with the audio in the same way the walkman dsee or creative cystalizer do. mostly marketing nonsense, you cant create extra detail out of nothing. hell if u want you can even make mp3s sound like you have a tube amp. iZotope, Inc - Audio Processing Technology and Plug-Ins for Pro Tools, VST, MAS, Audio Unit, and DirectX
some people like it. doesn't mean its better quality than the original cd.
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post #13 of 13
6/8/08 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by 0roo0roo View Post
theoretically you can.. just not with bluetooth
even uncompressed audio isn't that big a bitstream, its just bluetooth is so pathetic anyways i think its mostly a gimmick considering the limitations of bluetooth headphones and their size/recharge hassles/cost. its not like you are going to really leave your mp3 player in another room, you gotta wear it so you can control it anyways.

anyways, lossless seems pointless really. i think most audiophiles would fail blind tests with even 192kbps lame encoded mp3. let alone when using portable headphones. have you bought some insane uber headphone?

and i wouldn't put effort into backing yourself into a proprietary format corner using wma. pass some blind testing between 320kbps mp3 and wma lossless then decide. otherwise you are just kidding yourself.

as for burwen bobcat, ist just messing with the audio in the same way the walkman dsee or creative cystalizer do. mostly marketing nonsense, you cant create extra detail out of nothing. hell if u want you can even make mp3s sound like you have a tube amp. iZotope, Inc - Audio Processing Technology and Plug-Ins for Pro Tools, VST, MAS, Audio Unit, and DirectX
some people like it. doesn't mean its better quality than the original cd.
Actually,BB doesn't really add detail (other than placing a slight, mostly imperceptable ,amount of reverb at 44.1k). The result is the music has a more 'analog' character to it. I like what it does a lot, the ambient information in the recordings stand out if that is the way it was recorded. I agree most processing is an insufficient baid-aid for mediocre recordings or playback deficiencies. You are right,though,the quality is subjective & I was incorrect in saying it is better. Less digital sounding would be more accurate.Sorry, my enthusiasm got the better of me.
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