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post #31 of 168
^^ that's no good. you need to have them there at the same time.
post #32 of 168
Congrats Asr! Now you can understand just how good this amp is. I really don't think there's a solid state headphone amp in existence that can touch it, no matter the cost.

naamanf does absolutely beautiful work, and that amp is as gorgeous looking as I know it sounds.

I will soon have the privilege of having a TPA Buffalo DAC built by him.

Again, just gorgeous!
post #33 of 168
If anyone arranges this count me in on that mini-meet. I could bring the RudiStor RPX-100. An Apache owner would round out a nice side by side comparison of SS magic.

Laurence

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If you send me your Apache, I can find out.

But you don't have to do that because this amp will be making a trip to the LA area soon...I suspect a mini-meet would logically follow...
post #34 of 168
More photos, including internal shots of naamanf's builds are now at the gallery section of the official β22 website. Enjoy.
post #35 of 168
Thread Starter 
Day 1 - B22 w/ Plinius CD-101

Not that I'll necessarily be writing an installment for every day I listen, but my first day of critical listening officially started yesterday.

I decided to start things off with the Plinius CD-101, my reference CDP of the past few months. My previous amp references were the HeadAmp AE-2, Singlepower Square Wave, and HeadAmp Pico. Power cord on the Plinius was the Black Sand Silver Reference MKV, and LAT International AC-2 MKII on the B22.

I started listening in single-ended with the Analysis Plus Silver Oval RCA, with my APureSound V3-recabled Audio-Technica AD2000 and SAA Equinox-recabled K701 (each with appropriate V3 and Equinox XLR-1/4" adapters), to compare with the Plinius balanced output. Stunned disbelief followed - amazingly, the balanced output sounded clearly superior to the single-ended output! I was surprised, considering there are only two PCM1704 DACs in the Plinius, and not four (for a dual-differential config). The balanced output was clearly louder, more dynamic, and expanded the soundstage width & depth by almost 200%, as if the single-ended's soundstage was in a tiny bubble.

Once I heard this revelation, I then decided to do all my listening in balanced mode, and proceeded to spin The Crystal Method, The Prodigy, Alison Krauss & Union Station, Renee Fleming, A Fine Frenzy, and Porcupine Tree. I'll give you guys the short version here: I ended up staying up all night - literally. The music coming out of the system was beyond anything I've heard before and completely mesmerized me that I could not stop listening. I kept listening until I had to go to work!

How did it sound?

Well first I'll say that I swapped between the Analysis Plus Silver Oval XLR and VH Audio Symnmetry XLR fairly often, to get a better idea of the B22's sound, and also for a review of them I'm planning for Audio Asylum. (I ended up getting a page worth of notes on the sonic differences between the ICs.)

If these ICs were any indication, the B22 sounded completely transparent to my ears - I got very noticeably different sounds between them, on the scale of an amplifier or source change. This process was very enlightening and helped me discern the sonic qualities of the ICs.

I can't make any sonic assessments of the B22 at this time since I've only heard it on the Plinius so far, but if I were to make any statements, I would list these:

- The Plinius CD-101 is clearly massively detailed, I heard so many NEW things from CDs I've heard many times before, that I found myself playing tracks over and over to make sure that I was hearing right.

- The Plinius is also extremely holographic and provides a clear, open, and expansive culling of space within and around the musical layers. The experience of listening was literally like staring into space.

- The Plinius is fast and very agile, and very lean and cool, as if it's the thin layer of an autumn mist in the very early morning. No, it didn't sound bright, but it did have a "cold" edge to it that made it feel detached and not aggressive. Perfect crystalline definition at all times, that gave a big "taste of steel" sensation when guitar strings were plucked or rang out.

- The B22 is clearly an all-out assault on high-end audio. Never once did I get a sense that I was missing something, even a little bit. The music that flowed out of the K701 and AD2000 was pure sonic bliss and I couldn't find any faults with it. I'm sure I'll find some later after I hear the bel canto CD-1 and dCS P8i, but last night was all musical enjoyment and awe. I gave the system my toughest reference tracks and it never skipped a beat - it went through them all and produced perfectly amazing music. From the crushing, oppressive bass of The Crystal Method and The Prodigy, to the electricity of Porcupine Tree, to the rolling intensity of operatic singers, to the soft cooing of Alison Krauss' voice, it was all presented beautifully with the integrity of a live-music performance. More than once I felt like the performers were in the room with me.
post #36 of 168
"APureSound V3-recabled Audio-Technica AD2000"? Balanced? What's on my keyboard? oh, drool... (jk!)

Moving on: I know it's not a full review, but great little write up. Hearing you describe the Plinius reminded me of the Simaudio Supernova CDP. With the Cyrstal M, with your current setup, would you desribe being able to hear the air beneath the bass? Like a very natural presentation of the bass where there is both grip and extension? Like there is just endless bottom end? I'm not sure how to desribe it but I've heard the effect with great high-end speaker setups (JMlabs top-end stuff powered with mark L.) and I'm wondering if the same extension can be achieve with headphones. It hasn't been in my experience but then I've never heard the super systems people have floating around head-fi.
post #37 of 168
Great mini review!
I'd love to hear more if you get the chance

...I can't wait until mine arrives!

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post #38 of 168
Very nice impressions Asr, your discription has me wanting and I had just promised myself to stop thinking upgrades. Naamanf is quite the master I would really like to hear Steve's buffalo dac when it makes it to these shores. We won't hold it against you if you post a few more impressions.
post #39 of 168
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Very nice impressions Asr, your discription has me wanting and I had just promised myself to stop thinking upgrades. Naamanf is quite the master I would really like to hear Steve's buffalo dac when it makes it to these shores. We won't hold it against you if you post a few more impressions.
Second that. I promise I won't complain if you post more.

I need to stop living vicariously through the people on this forum
post #40 of 168
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I need to stop living vicariously through the people on this forum
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post #41 of 168
I had a rather modest upgrade plan ....This doesn't help.

Beautiful pics, impression and congrats!!
post #42 of 168
Asr - I am happy to hear you are enjoying the B22. Makes all the time put into it worth while.

The real Kudos goes to AMB for designing a great amplifier. I just brought all the parts together.

A couple pages back someone mentioned that the gain of the amp was a bit low. In balanced mode (gain of 4) it still had enough gain to drive K340s and K1000s to levels that are louder than I would listen for any prolonged time. I still personally prefer higher gain because I never know what I am going to plug into it.
post #43 of 168
was a fantastic sounding amp Naamanf, you do fine work.
post #44 of 168
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More photos, including internal shots of naamanf's builds are now at the gallery section of the official β22 website. Enjoy.
holy cow.

the internals of this thing are crazy.
post #45 of 168
/bows with respect to naamanf

Lovely workmanship on that B22, and kudos again to AMB for all of his hard work and brilliance in designing it.

Glad to hear you seem to have finally found something that you cannot find flaw with, Asr Thats what we're all after when we start this hobby I suppose, a system that is zero compromise to our tastes and our ears. I hope the B22 proves such a component for you.
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