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post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by Masticore View Post
So that lod that stevens sells, does it both charge or sync or just charge as standard?
It can be charged by the Moto Razer charger, and by synced by the mini-usb cable. It took me hours to solder all the pins Damn difficult because the pins are always in the ready-to-break state.
post #17 of 29
Thread Starter 
can anyone explain a few key terms for me?

i keep hearing the same things over and over again, ie:

1) cryo dock
2) jena 22g 18g
3) cry silver
4) Neutrik Nickel
5) IMOD enabled LOD
6) # of strands on a dock. some have 3, some 4 and some with mixed wires. If for example a LOD had 2 jena and 2 cryo silver, what does that mean? why are some copper and some silver and what are they connected to?

THanks
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by nismohks View Post
can anyone explain a few key terms for me?

i keep hearing the same things over and over again, ie:

1) cryo dock
2) jena 22g 18g
3) cry silver
4) Neutrik Nickel
5) IMOD enabled LOD
6) # of strands on a dock. some have 3, some 4 and some with mixed wires. If for example a LOD had 2 jena and 2 cryo silver, what does that mean? why are some copper and some silver and what are they connected to?

THanks
1. The "cryo dock" is an LOD sold by ALO Audio, made from cryo treated copper wire. The cryo treatment process is alleged to offer sonic benefits. Alleged.

2. Jena (Jena Labs, specifically) is a company that sells cryo treated copper wires. ALO cryo docks use their copper wire. 22g and 18g refer to guage sizes (thicknesses) of the wire. The smaller the number, the thicker the wire.

3. *cryo silver. Same deal as cryo copper.

4. Neutrik makes connectors and jacks that get used in cables frequently, and some of them are nickel plated.

5. The iMod is a modified iPod from Red Wine Audio. When a 5/5.5G iPod is "iModded", capacitors are required in the signal path that don't fit inside the iPod's slim case. Accordingly, ALO provides LODs that have these capacitors built into the signal path (inside the dock connector part of the LOD). Those are the so called iMod enabled LODs. Don't get one if you're not using an iMod.

6. Some people claim that different kinds of wire sound different, and as such cables are made with these tastes in mind. For example, I believe ALO audio has a line of cables called Cryo X Silver that uses cryo copper wires in conjunction with pure silver wires. My personal opinion is that this is all nonsense, but nevertheless many claim sonic differences between the materials. As for what it means technically, the dock needs at least three wires: right, left and ground. The four wire docks generally double up on ground (though I don't know what if any effect this has). Again, using different materials for the channels versus the ground implies the expectation of a sonic effect, but I very much doubt there is one.


I have two LODs. One made with Canare Starquad cable (pretty standard stuff, regular copper I believe, nothing fancy) and one with Jena cryo copper cable. I can attest to there being no audible difference between them.
post #19 of 29
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Originally Posted by monolith View Post
1. The "cryo dock" is an LOD sold by ALO Audio, made from cryo treated copper wire. The cryo treatment process is alleged to offer sonic benefits. Alleged.

2. Jena (Jena Labs, specifically) is a company that sells cryo treated copper wires. ALO cryo docks use their copper wire. 22g and 18g refer to guage sizes (thicknesses) of the wire. The smaller the number, the thicker the wire.

3. *cryo silver. Same deal as cryo copper.

4. Neutrik makes connectors and jacks that get used in cables frequently, and some of them are nickel plated.

5. The iMod is a modified iPod from Red Wine Audio. When a 5/5.5G iPod is "iModded", capacitors are required in the signal path that don't fit inside the iPod's slim case. Accordingly, ALO provides LODs that have these capacitors built into the signal path (inside the dock connector part of the LOD). Those are the so called iMod enabled LODs. Don't get one if you're not using an iMod.

6. Some people claim that different kinds of wire sound different, and as such cables are made with these tastes in mind. For example, I believe ALO audio has a line of cables called Cryo X Silver that uses cryo copper wires in conjunction with pure silver wires. My personal opinion is that this is all nonsense, but nevertheless many claim sonic differences between the materials.


I have two LODs. One made with Canare Starquad cable (pretty standard stuff, regular copper I believe, nothing fancy) and one with Jena cryo copper cable. I can attest to there being no audible difference between them.

BRAVO.

mate that is a perfect post and i could NOT HAVE asked for anything better !

perfect, much appreciated!
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by nismohks View Post
BRAVO.

mate that is a perfect post and i could NOT HAVE asked for anything better !

perfect, much appreciated!
My pleasure. See this post for pictures of my rig that used one of stevenkelby's LODs.
post #21 of 29
i need a mini to mini with the right angled plugs,would steven be able to do one of these?
post #22 of 29
^yes he can do anything
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by monolith View Post
1. The "cryo dock" is an LOD sold by ALO Audio, made from cryo treated copper wire. The cryo treatment process is alleged to offer sonic benefits. Alleged.

2. Jena (Jena Labs, specifically) is a company that sells cryo treated copper wires. ALO cryo docks use their copper wire. 22g and 18g refer to guage sizes (thicknesses) of the wire. The smaller the number, the thicker the wire.

3. *cryo silver. Same deal as cryo copper.

4. Neutrik makes connectors and jacks that get used in cables frequently, and some of them are nickel plated.

5. The iMod is a modified iPod from Red Wine Audio. When a 5/5.5G iPod is "iModded", capacitors are required in the signal path that don't fit inside the iPod's slim case. Accordingly, ALO provides LODs that have these capacitors built into the signal path (inside the dock connector part of the LOD). Those are the so called iMod enabled LODs. Don't get one if you're not using an iMod.

6. Some people claim that different kinds of wire sound different, and as such cables are made with these tastes in mind. For example, I believe ALO audio has a line of cables called Cryo X Silver that uses cryo copper wires in conjunction with pure silver wires. My personal opinion is that this is all nonsense, but nevertheless many claim sonic differences between the materials. As for what it means technically, the dock needs at least three wires: right, left and ground. The four wire docks generally double up on ground (though I don't know what if any effect this has). Again, using different materials for the channels versus the ground implies the expectation of a sonic effect, but I very much doubt there is one.


I have two LODs. One made with Canare Starquad cable (pretty standard stuff, regular copper I believe, nothing fancy) and one with Jena cryo copper cable. I can attest to there being no audible difference between them.
Thanks Mono...this cleared up alot of questions I had. One of the most informative posts I've seen in awhile.
post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by Lil' Knight View Post
Love this one


Lil' Knight,

How long is the cable? Someone said 6 inches but it doesn't look that long to me. This looks really nice I was set on the Head Direct ZY Zn7 but now I'm thinking of picking this up. Performance is good?
post #25 of 29
I recently bought a low profile LOD which is also iPhone ready from Punnisher. I have not seen LODs that small anywhere else. If you are looking for a good quality and small LOD, this is it.
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post #27 of 29
good enough.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by ratdog View Post
Lil' Knight,

How long is the cable? Someone said 6 inches but it doesn't look that long to me. This looks really nice I was set on the Head Direct ZY Zn7 but now I'm thinking of picking this up. Performance is good?
This cables' length is perfect for a portable amp setup... Although I can't say much about the performance, since this is the only LOD i've owned, i can attest to its durability...

You can bend it how much you want, it won't break...
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by gilency View Post

I recently bought a low profile LOD which is also iPhone ready from Punnisher. I have not seen LODs that small anywhere else. If you are looking for a good quality and small LOD, this is it.


hey where did you buy them?

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