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post #2101 of 2368

got a q701, what is the different between these two?

also want to try k701, because it has been shown in one of my favorite anime...

post #2102 of 2368
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Originally Posted by wingmylife View Post

got a q701, what is the different between these two?

also want to try k701, because it has been shown in one of my favorite anime...

Mehehe, K-On Mio crossplay for Sakura-Con 2013 here we go! :)

 

The Q 701's sounded a bit warmer to my ears versus the K 702's (which sound the same as the K 701). It's weird because they all use the same drivers, but the Q's definitely sounded a tad bit warmer.

post #2103 of 2368
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Mehehe, K-On Mio crossplay for Sakura-Con 2013 here we go! :)

 

The Q 701's sounded a bit warmer to my ears versus the K 702's (which sound the same as the K 701). It's weird because they all use the same drivers, but the Q's definitely sounded a tad bit warmer.

 

I agree. Otherwise, the overall sound "signature" is quite similar. Another difference is the detachable cable on the q701s.

post #2104 of 2368
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Originally Posted by HaVoC-28 View Post

In Europe you can find K701 for less than 300$ and Q701 for less than 400$ . (well Q701 still expensive in europe relatively to us price but there is the vat thing)

 

http://www.thomann.de/de/akg_k701.htm

http://www.thomann.de/de/akg_q_701_black.htm

 

(german price but can be a little less or more depending on country VAT)

 

 

Hmmm interesting. Thanks for these links, this could be quite cheap since I get 25% tax returns if I buy something in Germany.

post #2105 of 2368

i kinda miss my K701 with WA6-SE, they're no T1 or HD 800, but come pretty close with amazing neutrality for only 250 bucks. if i rebuy some of the mid-fi's i had, the 701 would definitely be a top pick for me, they sounded really good when properly amped.

post #2106 of 2368

+1

I have said the same, for the price Q701 does a nice job. Just sold my HD800 and keeping Q701

 

midfi seem more fun 

 

Happy New year headfi

post #2107 of 2368

Just got some second hand K701's, made in 2007, so pretty old, but they're in pretty good condition and have ear cushions that have been replaced half a year ago. Also owner claims he hasn't used them for more than 50 hours all together, and that they've been stored away most of the time. Got them for 100$.  I have to say as far as comparison to Q701's goes, they DO indeed sound different, brighter, with less bass, with slightly more open sound.  Which would confirm to me that they sound different than new K701's as well, since they K701's I've tested about half a year ago when buying the Q's sounded exactly the same as the Q701.

 

I don't know if its due to brightness, but these K701's definitely seem more detailed than anything I have at the moment, including the Q701. The bad thing is, I got a headache after about 30 minutes of listening at medium volume level, the same volume I use the Q701's sometimes for 2-3 hours without any problem. Fatigue is a problem.


Edited by derbigpr - 1/4/13 at 12:02pm
post #2108 of 2368
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Originally Posted by derbigpr View Post

Just got some second hand K701's, made in 2007, so pretty old, but they're in pretty good condition and have ear cushions that have been replaced half a year ago. Also owner claims he hasn't used them for more than 50 hours all together, and that they've been stored away most of the time. Got them for 100$.  I have to say as far as comparison to Q701's goes, they DO indeed sound different, brighter, with less bass, with slightly more open sound.  Which would confirm to me that they sound different than new K701's as well, since they K701's I've tested about half a year ago when buying the Q's sounded exactly the same as the Q701.

 

I don't know if its due to brightness, but these K701's definitely seem more detailed than anything I have at the moment, including the Q701. The bad thing is, I got a headache after about 30 minutes of listening at medium volume level, the same volume I use the Q701's sometimes for 2-3 hours without any problem. Fatigue is a problem.

Huh so that is true? Someone commented on my YouTube K 701 unboxing video about that as well. Interesting.

post #2109 of 2368
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Huh so that is true? Someone commented on my YouTube K 701 unboxing video about that as well. Interesting.

 

 

Where the link to your video?

post #2110 of 2368
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Huh so that is true? Someone commented on my YouTube K 701 unboxing video about that as well. Interesting.

 

 

Where the link to your video?

 

I did try the K 702 next to the Q 701 at a local Head-Fi meet and I did find the Q's to be a bit warmer-sounding than the K 702. I don't know the serial number of the K 702, but my K 701 is definitely one of the newer ones (serial number 84016).

post #2111 of 2368
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Huh so that is true? Someone commented on my YouTube K 701 unboxing video about that as well. Interesting.

 

 

Thats my comment! :P   I was just watching videos on youtube of K701's trying to find someone who would compare the old and new and share my doubt when I was still considering buying the old version that I've got now. I remember hearing a K701 a few years back, and to my memory it sounded totally different than the new ones I've heard in the store, and different than the Q701's I've heard as well. I knew all along that NEW K701 and Q701 sounded the same. Well, at least the ones I've heard in a store a couple of months back. I distinctly remember comparing them for about half an hour, switching between them, and I did not really hear any difference. For the reference, I DID CLEARLY hear the difference between HD600's and HD650's in the same store, on the exact same system, and exact same music back when I was buying my HD650. So if there was a difference between the K and Q, it was very very small, and not audible to me at the time, even though I was trying hard to hear them.  Both the K701 and Q701 were brand spanking new, their boxes were still wrapped in plastic and they were opened before my eyes. So they couldn't have been different when it comes to burn in or something like that.

 

But these old K701's (I think from 2007 or 2008 - #14306 s/n) DO sound different. Pretty much like different headphones compared to my Q701's. I'd say they differ more than HD600 and HD650's do from each other. I've tried switching the black foams behind the earpads above the driver cover, as well as switching the earpads between them, and differences remain. I'll try putting the grill from Q701 on the K701, but I doubt that will do any difference, as I hear no change in sound if I cover the grill on K701 with my fingers.

 

Other than those things, I don't see any differences. The drivers appear to be the same visually.

 

Sound wise, these K701's are the first headphones after a long times which actually make me say that famous cliche line...I've never heard this before. It's true. Some detailes pop out of songs that I've truly never heard before. Sadly, those are mostly imperfections in the recordings, so they kinda ruin it.  I see why some people hate these headphones.

post #2112 of 2368

Damn I'm starting to love these headphones.  I prefer them over Q701's actually, because they're something special. Sure, they suck with recordings that aren't perfect, but once you find that perfect song, man do they sound good. I feel they're actually superior to Q701's in terms of clarity and resolution. And I actually find them involving, more so than the Q701's. And keep in mind these are headphones that have been hanging off of a headphone stand for almost 3 years without use.

 

Some records that sound bad on other headphones sound particularly good on K701's for some reason.  So far my favorite newly discovered albums that were in my collection for a long time and were not used: 

Particia Barber - A distortion of love (sounds stunning, amazing clarity, huuuuuuge soundstage)

Barney Wilen - French Ballads (sax sounds so full, warm and lush it literally sends tingles down my spine, that hasn't happened for a very long time with headphones)

John Coltrane - Soultrane (sounds too warm on HD650's, DT880's and Q701's, perfect on K701)


Edited by derbigpr - 1/6/13 at 4:40pm
post #2113 of 2368

I really really like my K702s. These are the headphones I look forward to using most of all. I actually bought them in 2010 and I have had over two years of pleasure from them and I look forward to many more years.

 

The main headphones I used up to that time were my Sennheiser HD540 Reference Golds. These I bought new over twenty years ago. I don't have a rapid upgrade cycle :)

 

To be honest I don't really like using my old Sennheisers any more and I am now considering selling them on eBay because they get no use and the price for those classic headphones is very good.

 

The K702s simply are so transparent and detailed. I love listening to composers from the impressionist era of classical music, best known being Debussy and Ravel. Impressionist music is full of very carefully sculptured sounds made from many different parts of the orchestra, often using unusual combinations of instruments and very unique time signatures. The K702s reproduce these marvellous and beautiful sounds with great accuracy, they are a revelation.

 

I have alway preferred transparent Hi Fi over Hi Fi that tries to participate in the performance in some way. Transparent Hi Fi allows you to hear the real life that is in the music. Great transparent Hi Fi is liberating for the music, it totally gets out of the way. This is the nature of the K702s.

post #2114 of 2368
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Generally I would say that the K701 should be better to a good extent than the K550 if you SPECIFICALLY put effort into finding good amping. On the other hand, the rest of your equipment is mediocre, don't expect the K701 to be much better at all. 

 

I do have the AKG K702 and K550 headphones. I've had the K702s for over two years and I purchased the K550s a few months ago when they were first released.

 

I do think that the K702s are significantly better in some areas, most notably resolution of detail and accuracy of tone and timbre. The K702s do have a wider and more open soundstage imho.

 

I really like my K550s and these were an extremely useful closed back headphone for me to use on a holiday to Colombia in September. I used them with my portable hi fi on the aeroplane as well as in Colombia. They allowed me to listen to music without annoying my friends. The soundstage of the K550s is surprisingly wide for closed headphones, I have never heard such open sounding closed back headphones. The K550s produce an extremely smooth sound but I do not believe the resolution is as good as the AKG 702s.

 

With either the K550s or the K702s you will be able to enjoy your music very well indeed. However when I am at home with my Sugden amplifier and Meier Audio StageDac I use the K702s in preference to the K550s on most occasions, and I think they are substantially better. When I am abroad with just my MacBook Pro and a portable Meier Audio amplifier I use my K550s.


Edited by p a t r i c k - 1/6/13 at 5:42pm
post #2115 of 2368
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Originally Posted by szoze View Post

Honor to the most neutral headphone on the planet. wink.gif

 

Yes they might well be the most neutral headphone :)

 

I would like to add that they are neutral but not neutralising.

 

Often people read that a particular headphone, or any Hi Fi component is "neutral" and they think that maybe this will not be a lot of fun. However good neutral Hi Fi enables you to hear the action, the life in the music. So imho good neutral Hi Fi is far more fun than Hi Fi which colours the music in some way.

 

Over the years I have seen a great explosion in the amount of very bad audio equipment which colours the sound signal. This is sold as "Hi Fi" or "audiophile" equipment but it is really not Hi Fi from my perspective.

 

The objective of Hi Fi is to be transparent. It is not to be part of the performance, but rather it is to get out of the way and allow the listener to hear the music.

 

Audio equipment which colours the sound will often be initially impressive but in the longer term it will get tiresome.

 

The K702s (and K701s) really are Hi Fi at its best. They allow you to hear the music. I recommend people use the K702/1s with high quality transparent sources and amplification.

 

Please do not pair the AKG K701/2s with "warm" sounding amplifiers in the belief that they "need some warmth" they do not. Use them with good quality transparent amplifiers and listen to warmth that may or may not be in the music.

 

Let the musicians decide if they wish to sound warm or cold.

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