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post #136 of 2368

The verdict is pending

I recently purchased a pair of 701's. They are still breaking in. I notice much detail (they are very analytic) and a wide soundstage. The cans sound rather neutral (and clean) and perhaps a bit sterile. Hmmm....the verdict is still out. I want to like them and find many admirable qualities. It will be a few months before I come to a conclusion. Until then, I will listen to them and try to figure out just what they mean to me.

So far my favourite can is the Grado 325i. My second favourite is the AKG 271s. Musical tastes are eclectic. I do gravitate to world music, but am also an opera buff and a serious jazz head. Oh...and I recently discovered pirate metal.

Cheers!
post #137 of 2368
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Originally Posted by tjumper78 View Post
i've been interested in k701 for a few years but have not tried it yet. i think i want to give it a try now, and have a few questions.
1. how are they with rock/metal? i listen to lots of different rock genres. metallica, nightwish, hoobastank, etc.
2. i used to be a semi-basshead but have become a less fan of thumping bass during the past two years. in terms of bass quantity/quality, is k701's bass something similar to altec im716's bass in hd mode? i still love good bass but i didnt mind im716's lean (sometimes non-existant) bass at all.

I'll answer these question together as one feeds off the other. The K701s will do just fine with rock (can't say for sure about metal as I don't listen to it). Most rock gets it drive from the bass and the K701s, while not the headphone to satisfy a bass head, is of excellent quality. If there is deep bass, you'll hear it, if not, you won't. The K701s don't add anything to the music. They are one of the most neutral headphones I've ever heard. Some say the bass is lean. I say it depends on the recording - well recorded bass is going to sound that way, poorly recorded bass will sound it.


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Originally Posted by tjumper78 View Post
3. i currently do not have full-sized amps. i only had a pico (which drove hd650, hd600, dt990 very well imo) but sold it for personal reasons, and waiting for a 2move now. will k701 sound like poop when driven by 2move or will i still hear decent sound?
any replies, opinions and suggestions will be highly appreciated.
thanks.

I've driven my K701s from three different amps - all solidstate - a Headroom Portable Micro w/DAC (it sounds great), a Headroom Total Bithead (with the gain switch - and it sound pretty good too), and finally a stand alone Original Electronics Master (best sound of the three - but very close to the Headroom Micro - due to the bigger power supply). As to your question, the K701s will sound OK driven by the 2Move. But as time and funds permit I would suggest looking for more powerful amp to really give the K701s the proper kick in the arse. But the 2Move will definitely let you know whether or not you like the K701s. (it's my bet you will.)
post #138 of 2368
I am somewhat disappointed with k701's female vocal at the midrange. It is quite flat. My SR80 sounds better in this aspect. Perhaps and hopefully more burning will make that range emphasized and liquid.

For classical music, 701 does it very well. The piano notes are rounded, and the sound of violin sure is 3 dimensional.
post #139 of 2368
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Originally Posted by RickEC View Post
I am somewhat disappointed with k701's female vocal at the midrange. It is quite flat. My SR80 sounds better in this aspect. Perhaps and hopefully more burning will make that range emphasized and liquid.

For classical music, 701 does it very well. The piano notes are rounded, and the sound of violin sure is 3 dimensional.
The upper midrange/lower treble are THE undoing of the K701. Female vocals in particular expose a critical discontinuity/hard spot/"smear" in the K701's presentation. Burn in will not "liquify" or mend that frequency range breach in the K701, either.

It was that glitch in the all-important midrange that eventually led me to strongly prefer the (stock) K501 over the (RAL-recabled) K701. After having sold the latter, I have never looked back.

Having since had the K501 recabled with UP-OCC wire, I have less reason, or even inkling, to look back. If you want ultimate midrange liquidity and cohesion, the K501 will provide these for you, but the K701, IMHE, simply cannot. In fact, you'll be hard-pressed to find any other headphones that "gets it together" like the K501. : )
post #140 of 2368
K501 is out of production. Not readily available I guess. The glaring imperfection of K701 discussed here ought to be made known to those intending to get it. For female vocal, I audited ATH-AD2000, which sounds enchanting. Any other cans to recommend for female vocal, anyone?

Having mentioned K701's weakness, I should also mention that no one headphone is perfect for everything. I think for classical music, K701 is definitely worthy for the price. Not too sure about ATH-AD2000 and K501 though.
post #141 of 2368
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Originally Posted by RickEC View Post
K501 is out of production. Not readily available I guess. The glaring imperfection of K701 discussed here ought to be made known to those intending to get it. For female vocal, I audited ATH-AD2000, which sounds enchanting. Having mentioned K701's weakness, I should also mention that no one headphone is perfect for everything. I think for classical music, K701 is definitely worthy for the price. Not too sure about ATH-AD2000 and K501 though.
x2 on the AD2000 and female vocals. I find it better than the K501 for that, but I think my K501 are underpowered and could be even better with a better amp.
post #142 of 2368
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Originally Posted by Henmyr View Post
x2 on the AD2000 and female vocals. I find it better than the K501 for that, but I think my K501 are underpowered and could be even better with a better amp.
Between the K701 and the K501, the K501 are certainly the more demanding on an amp. The reason I eventually sold my first pair of K501 was due to inadequate amping. With the Bada PH-12, the K501 have "met their match," a match made in the celestial spheres of Head-fi-dom, IMHO. : )
post #143 of 2368
Hi guys, got nowhere to turn to and not really that much time on my hands to do hours of google investigations:
Is there a common mod to make the K701 more comfortable?
Maybe an additional accessory or something like that.
Would be cool, because that little bump in the middle seriously sucks.
post #144 of 2368
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Originally Posted by golem09 View Post
Would be cool, because that little bump in the middle seriously sucks.
Short of adding some padding I found that by working the leather between my fingers, flexing it back & forth softened it up rather quickly. Similar to what my brothers used to do with their baseball gloves, except without the oil (as to avoid discoloration).
post #145 of 2368
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Originally Posted by RickEC View Post
I am somewhat disappointed with k701's female vocal at the midrange. It is quite flat.

And being "quite flat" is a problem? I thought that flat was what we strive for? Maybe the problem isn't with the K701s as much as it is with the source material. Personally I don't find my K701s to have any problem whatsoever with female vocals. In fact, I find them (female vocals) to be outstanding. But to each their own. That's what makes this hobby so fun.
post #146 of 2368
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Originally Posted by JMCIII View Post
And being "quite flat" is a problem? I thought that flat was what we strive for? Maybe the problem isn't with the K701s as much as it is with the source material. Personally I don't find my K701s to have any problem whatsoever with female vocals. In fact, I find them (female vocals) to be outstanding. But to each their own. That's what makes this hobby so fun.
x2
post #147 of 2368
Thread Starter 
I feel ashamed upon seeing this thread . Hd600 has replaced the akgs....
post #148 of 2368
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Originally Posted by JMCIII View Post
And being "quite flat" is a problem? I thought that flat was what we strive for? Maybe the problem isn't with the K701s as much as it is with the source material. Personally I don't find my K701s to have any problem whatsoever with female vocals. In fact, I find them (female vocals) to be outstanding. But to each their own. That's what makes this hobby so fun.
Apology for my ambiguous description. The "flat" i mentioned was not referring to the frequency responses. I think some who have compared 701 and AD2000 (both from the same source) knows what I mean. Quality of female vocal projected through the two cans are different. Like you mentioned, "to each their own". Unfortunately, sound quality hardly has true datum (unless you were there in the recording studio).
post #149 of 2368
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Originally Posted by RickEC View Post
Unfortunately, sound quality hardly has true datum (unless you were there in the recording studio).
Some of us were.
post #150 of 2368
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Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
Some of us were.
Most hobbyists weren't, including me.
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