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post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by dscans View Post
Different strokes for different folks. I happen to have the Sleek, Atrios M8 and the UE TF10. Each gives a different presentation to the music, they all have quirks and strong points. In all honesty, the Sleek does not fare badly at all, in my own opinion. I like the comfort (their biflanges rock!), clean sound, the treble clarity and the warm, non fatiguing mids. The bass was a little lacking, but could be fixed with some judicious EQ'ing.
I share similar feeling about SA6.

There are two person who don't like SA6 that I read of: TheMarchingMule - I think he doesn't like IEM and earbud's sound in general (a conclusion I get from reading his SA6 and PK1 comments). They don't reproduce the same feeling/SQ as his bigger cans, which I can agree with. No matter how great an IEM/earbud sound, most (if not all) can't match up with big cans, or else we won't need to have big can anymore, won't we? The other person is JoyEnergizer - he prefers TF10 more. I can also understand his point since I too think TF10 sounds better over all. However, consider TF10 is almost $100 more expensive than SA6, one should of course expect TF10 to sound better than SA6 (note: that has nothing to do with whether a person like the sound signature or not).

SA6 is already 4 months in the market now, what is the talk of FOTM?
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post
i don't see too many reveiws about the pioneer phones that are the same idea as the sleek: one driver and ports. wonder which one actually came out earlier.
SA6 was announced 9 months before Pioneer.
post #17 of 21
To base a purchase on one source is rather foolish in my book. Especially when it comes to something so subjective as audio equipment. If the OP wishes to place high regard to CNet's reviews, fine by me. But I don't appreciate that I am being told I must be wrong in my opinions of the SA6 just because of CNet's review. Making statements like:

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Originally Posted by syed786 View Post
sleeks only looks good but does not sound as good as like other ultimate ears's offerings triple fi's or super fi's. to prove it to you all head fiers check and read it carefully this review from CNET and you'll know.
just doesn't sit well around here. Live and learn, my friend.
post #18 of 21
Agree. I just tweak the bass EQ a bit (with the Sony or Sansa DAPs) and the SA6s are sweet, to my ears. I haven't had the pleasure of trying the TF10s, but seems to me there are several Head-Fiers with both and with one exception, none of them truly bashed the SA6 based on the comparison. To me, the SA6 accomplish what I want from an IEM, most of all they are mid-forward (something the Atrios lacked a bit), are very comfortable (with either the Comply shorts or the Shure yellow foamies), have a very non-fatiguing sound (very important to me, since I listen for relatively long periods), and have they modular design, which is both good financially (should I accidentally damage the cable or one of the treble tubes) and from a fun perspective.

Are they the best IEM possible. I don't know since I haven't tried the "high priced spread." But for the money, they hit the mark for me. If and when I ever win the lottery or a poker tournament, I'd be glad to give the TF10s a shot. Maybe even the UE11s. But for now, the SA6s meet my expectations for my version of the perfect IEM.

To use the CNET review as some sort of guide is ridiculous. I have Directv, and CNET rated its HD-DVR (the HR20) a 7.4 or "very good" (back when it came out 18 months ago). It was a buggy box, with all sorts of problems (it has since settled down). But the average user rating? Even today? 4.5. So much for the uneven and often wrong reviews of electronic gear at CNET. Soozieq's comment says it all. They didn't even know enough to check the difference between the C700 and C751 before they printed their expert review.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by warrior05 View Post
To base a purchase on one source is rather foolish in my book. Especially when it comes to something so subjective as audio equipment. If the OP wishes to place high regard to CNet's reviews, fine by me. But I don't appreciate that I am being told I must be wrong in my opinions of the SA6 just because of CNet's review. Making statements like:



just doesn't sit well around here. Live and learn, my friend.
Spot on my friend, spot on. I get to the point in my life and experience now where I am...almost...just letting such simplicity, ignorance and close-mindedness go past me, not even bothering to put the time and energy into enlightening the 'offenders' to their 'errors', I'm so fed up with it. Ultimately why should we (let it bother us)? I am getting to the point of 'well, if others wana be that ''foolish'' then let em. Why do I have to be upset or perturbed by it?' It does at times though just get under my skin and irritate me enough to do so lol
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
I share similar feeling about SA6.

There are two person who don't like SA6 that I read of: TheMarchingMule - I think he doesn't like IEM and earbud's sound in general (a conclusion I get from reading his SA6 and PK1 comments). They don't reproduce the same feeling/SQ as his bigger cans, which I can agree with. No matter how great an IEM/earbud sound, most (if not all) can't match up with big cans, or else we won't need to have big can anymore, won't we? The other person is JoyEnergizer - he prefers TF10 more. I can also understand his point since I too think TF10 sounds better over all. However, consider TF10 is almost $100 more expensive than SA6, one should of course expect TF10 to sound better than SA6 (note: that has nothing to do with whether a person like the sound signature or not).

SA6 is already 4 months in the market now, what is the talk of FOTM?
Thank you for remebering me! Clieos Yes I really liked the sweet-mid sound of SA6 in the beggining but for MSRP $240 they are OVERPRICED IMHO.

In my opinion, It's better to pay $80 dollars more for the Triples ($320) and just keep them and be in love with the sounds they reproduce (If they fit your ear comfortably). Therefore, you'll end up save more money, other than spending hundreds of dollars before you get to the high-end IEMs at the end.

I'll be happy until Westone 3 or something better comes out.

Before we talk about the price, I was comparing SA6 over 3 IEM, but one that made me think SA6 is overpriced was the q-Jays. The best sexy and sleek design(to me), smallest IEM in the world (for now), most comfortable(you can sleep with them laying down by side with no discomfort) dual driverat reasonable price $179.

q-Jays are more analytic and more accurate over SA6.
I can say that with confidence because I have been A-Bing them for a 2weeks. They also had very generous packages included for that price too!

For $50 dollar cheaper, better performance(in accuracy), better design(to me) and generous package, period.

My opinion is very subjective, and your preference might vary, but I didn't find SA6 attractive over q-jays except pronounced mid frequency reproduction.

SA6 was performing well in Mid frequencies and they sound musical and warm and natural (like you are listening from concert or speakers) but it's due to different sound signature.
Sa6 mid is very forwarded and more like in your face, on the other hand, q-Jays mid department was kind of laid back and distant compared to SA6. However,that doesn't mean q-Jays are lacking in Mid department. They produce more accurate and ARTICULATE sounding than SA6 but q-Jays treble extesion is more pronounced than the mid.

I choose q-Jays over SA6 for sexier and simple look (they really look stealthy, you only see the wires coming out of your ears.), not only that but also q-jays produce cleaner seperation of instrument, and accurate and articulate presentation for the fast paced music like Rock, Trance, House ETC.

For those genre I mentioned above, q-Jays win by big margin since SA6 is veiled and muffled and mixed sounding when music gets busy, SA6 just simply get boomy. I think that's because of the limit of SA6, which is due to the single amarture driver design of SA6

I know people are saying more driver isn't better necessarily, but SA6 is only good and better for classical and Jazz to my ears. for $240? I'll choose q-jays over SA6 even though SA6 is more involving, musical and wider sounding than the q-Jays but your mileage might vary.

The ER4-P is the king of accuracy, many of you might already know how they sound and there are alot of reviews so I don't need to mention about them but for the cheaper price than SA6(4month old) you can't go wrong with ER4-P(very old and you all know the good reputaion of them) except that they are little lacking in bass department (only in quantity).

Therefore, I didn't like the SA6's muffled sounds when music get's busy that's the main reason I let them go.

But also I really didn't like their cheesy chrome design, and they DO stick out of your ear like ER-4P so it's impossible to sleep with them unless you wanna drill your ear drums.

My Triple-fi by the way, for the price $320, I regret that I was spending unnecessary(or not since it's fun!!) money over the IEM journey.

They do sound perfect to my ear. sweetest spot that I can find for me.

Better Treble, better mid, better bass, better presentation, fuller sounding, wider sound stage(best among all of my IEM experience), sexy look(to me) and crazy seperation of instruments. They are simply amazing and giving me an eargasm all the time I put them on.

However we all know that the Triples are gigantic compared to other IEMs that I mentioned but they are very comfy and makes perfect seal with me even though I have very tiny ear canal. (I couldn't fit XXS sleeves of q-Jays but foamies solved the problem)

I was very pleased with SA6 in the beginning, but they weren't just for my preference of music that I listen everyday. So after i get Triples, I let my q-jays and SA6 go. I sold q-Jays to one of the member here, I sent back SA6 to soundearphones.com

Well, I was very excited and also had good time with SA6, very unique and ingenious renovation of tuning. They are DEFINITELY not the FOTM I can say but they weren't just not my cup of tea.

I am just happy with my Triples, no regret after all.
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by BloodSugar00 View Post
Spot on my friend, spot on. I get to the point in my life and experience now where I am...almost...just letting such simplicity, ignorance and close-mindedness go past me, not even bothering to put the time and energy into enlightening the 'offenders' to their 'errors', I'm so fed up with it. Ultimately why should we (let it bother us)? I am getting to the point of 'well, if others wana be that ''foolish'' then let em. Why do I have to be upset or perturbed by it?' It does at times though just get under my skin and irritate me enough to do so lol
Amen
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