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post #31 of 198
5/1/03 at 10:56am
Say, gopher, how does the gilmore compare to your vintage marantz?

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post #32 of 198
5/1/03 at 12:20pm

Re: v2 max

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Originally posted by sacd lover
.... Furthermore, mine is being built so plugging in the headphones disables the active preamp outputs. I also had a gain switch added to mine(extra cost $35) to lower the preamp outputs gain, so it will work with the very high output gain stage from my modded sony scd 555es sacd player. I think that covers everything.
AGGGGGHHHHHHH! I didn't know you could get a variable gain switch added. I would have had that done in a New York second had I known. With the DACT attenuator this is a must so that you can adjust the volume more accurately.


sacd,

Please make sure to post some thoughts on how it compares to the V1. I only have my Denon receiver, which works VERY well BTW, and my Creek OBH-11 to compare it to, plus my memory of the RKV. I think the Max will be one incredible piece of gear, and look forward the the man in brown to come by today with it.
post #33 of 198
5/1/03 at 6:24pm
ServinginEquador, the gain switch was his response to my question/need, because I found my v1 had to much gain to work with my 555es. I asked what he could do it, and this was his solution,so I paid extra for him to do that. I asked about the active preamp outs as well, and he said he could build it either way,so I chose the headphones to disable the pre outs when phones are plugged in. I think if people have a particular need, if they ask Justin, he will figure out a way to do it.
The gilmore v1 is just a great preamp in my system using a modded 222es. The 555es is better yet but I could barely crack the volume control without it being to loud. My v2 max will allow me to put this pairing together, and I am sure it will be special
post #34 of 198
5/1/03 at 6:46pm
sacd,

My unit is on it's way to justin to have a gain switch put in to lwoer it down a bit. I tried the unit with two different CD players and it was too loud and a mere 3 clicks on the DACT to be usable by me. The normal gain is 10, so I am having the switch installed to lower it to 4 and 8. Either should work nicely with anything I can throw at them.

Be on the lookout for a V2 **** thread as I took some photos and got some initial impressions on the amp before I boxed it up. It looked great inside and sounded.....well, be patient.
post #35 of 198
5/1/03 at 7:59pm
Hmm...hopefully this gain issue won't affect me. My Creek usually stays only a notch or two above 9 o clock with the Sony CE775 (volume off is about 7), and I wouldn't mind turning it down below that, however the sounds becomes uneven below 9 o clock. I'd like to have the knob closer to 12 when reaching my ideal listening level. Perhaps it's just something to do with the way the Creek handles the HD580's impedance and efficiency, but I hope I get more than a slight turn on the V2's knob before hitting full volume.
post #36 of 198
5/1/03 at 8:03pm
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Originally posted by AdamP88
Hmm...hopefully this gain issue won't affect me. My Creek usually stays only a notch or two above 9 o clock with the Sony CE775 (volume off is about 7), and I wouldn't mind turning it down below that, however the sounds becomes uneven below 9 o clock. I'd like to have the knob closer to 12 when reaching my ideal listening level. Perhaps it's just something to do with the way the Creek handles the HD580's impedance and efficiency, but I hope I get more than a slight turn on the V2's knob before hitting full volume.
If you order a V2, this should be no problem. If you order the Max, you will most likely run into a gain problem as the steps on the DACT take much larger jumps than one would think. Justin can install a gain switch quite easily, and I would highly reco getting one installed! The shipping costs later will eat up more than the cost of the switch and wiring will.
post #37 of 198
5/1/03 at 8:10pm
Adam,

For the HD580s you'll definitely have to turn up the volume a lot more than with the Grados that SIE is using. I suspect that if SIE had HD580/600s he would like the gain of 10 w/ the DACT.
post #38 of 198
5/1/03 at 8:11pm
Thanks for the quick response, SIC and antness. I ordered the V2 (although the Max looks mighty tempting! ). I think I'll wait until I've got a more respectable system before making the jump to the Max (or something at it's level).

Right now I'm debating whether or not to sell my Creek. It's my first headphone amp, so it's got some sentimental value, plus I enjoy it quite a bit (though that might all change once it gets compared to the V2 ). I could move it to my computer (via iMic), or I could just run interconnects from the iMic to the 2nd V2 input. Hmmm...choices, choices... .


On the other hand, if I sell the Creek, that'll get me closer to getting a new iPod.
post #39 of 198
5/2/03 at 3:08am
I got mine today .
post #40 of 198
5/2/03 at 3:19am
Wow, screwdriver, don't keep us in suspense, let us know what you think once you get a handle on how the new amp sounds. Especially since you got some CD3Ks coming your way soon.
post #41 of 198
5/2/03 at 3:34am
need sleep....

let go of the gilmore V2.........

call in sick tomorrow .............................. and listen to gilmoreV2 some more.....
post #42 of 198
5/2/03 at 9:55am

Re: v2 max

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Originally posted by sacd lover
The max has a stepped attenuator volume control that should give a noticeable improvement in sound quality.
Just curious, how will a stepped attenuator improve sound quality? I can see where it would give you more control over the volume.
post #43 of 198
5/2/03 at 1:13pm
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Originally posted by screwdriver
call in sick tomorrow ..............................
You wouldn't be the first...

NGF
post #44 of 198
5/2/03 at 2:39pm
john_jcb: Several folks have mentioned that adding a quality stepped atenuator improves the sound quality dramatically. There was a bit of a discussion about adding stepped attentuators to the Gilmore in this thread.

BoyElroy's comments from the above thread:
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Insofar as differences bet. the Alps Blue and a high quality stepped attenuator, I believe you will hear an immediate difference in terms of greater--

1) bass and bass slam/punch
2) transparency, transparency, transparency
3) smoother and more extended high end response
4) wider and more solid soundstaging.

I've actually tried a series type attenuator as well and have a much harder time hearing the difference bet. it and a stepped ladder type, but there is a wide, wide gap bet. having a standard pot (even a high quality one like the Alps on my ARLS3BR preamp) and a discrete resistor attenuator.

Having used stepped ladder attenuators now in a couple of amps, there is no way that I'll ever go back to standard pots.
--
Response to BoyElroy's comment above from 88Sound after he installed a DACT in his Gilmore ...
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BoyElroy, all I can say to you is...All of the Above! The Gilmore has now passed the Grace as the best solid state headphone amp I have ever heard.
Bruce
post #45 of 198
5/2/03 at 4:14pm
After Justin listened to the amp he built for me he is going to now build a MAx for himself. He agreed with BDA-ABAT's quote from Boy Elroy that the bass way better and details are let through that weren't there before. After hearing what carlo said about the difference in the V1 from the Alps to the DACT that is what influenced my decision to go with the MAx over the standard V2. I now think it was a good decision.
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