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post #16 of 265
Thread Starter 
everything but my questions got answered... ^^;;


I searched, but there is all kinds of crap sitting around. main question, do different methods give different results (aside from time to come to a result) and will not doing a decent method, in the long run, lower the quality of the headphones
post #17 of 265
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Originally posted by Stephonovich
It's really suprising that a person with 600+ posts is being such a closed-minded troll. Everyone up here has strange ideas about what sounds good. And we won't even get into Analog vs. Digital. It's all in the name of Hi-Fi. If I think that putting my PDCP in an anti-gravity tank will make it sound significantly better due to it floating, that's my opinion

(-:Stephonovich:-)
Yes, and you're entitled to it, and I'm entitled to deny it. Yes, some of us deny the phenomenon exists except trivially.
post #18 of 265
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Originally posted by SageOHaze
I searched, but there is all kinds of crap sitting around. main question, do different methods give different results (aside from time to come to a result) and will not doing a decent method, in the long run, lower the quality of the headphones
Everybody has his own methods, and nobody has ever claimed to know the best one so far. There's just no scientific research done in this regard...

I for one use bass-heavy music (with bass control turned up!), played loud (really loud!) during one or two nights. It's the fastest method and maybe the one which brings the bass quality to a level unreached by normal use or more «careful» burn-in – but that's just an assumption. You can interrupt burn-in, completely renounce it or whatsoever... there's nothing you can do wrong, except for burning the drivers to death.

post #19 of 265
Mike, get yourself some Sennheiser HD280 Pros. Burnin happens, and it is not trivial. On this one you are wrong. Sorry, you will have to deal with that.

As far as the proper method of burning in goes, a clean source is a good idea. Playing the music that you like is a good idea. Playing at volumes that are a small amount higher than what you normally listen to isn't a bad idea (though I don't really see the point). The bottom line is that they need to play for up to 100 hours before they sound good, and up to 50 they will sound pretty bad.
post #20 of 265
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Originally posted by radrd
Mike, get yourself some Sennheiser HD280 Pros. Burnin happens, and it is not trivial. On this one you are wrong. Sorry, you will have to deal with that.

As far as the proper method of burning in goes, a clean source is a good idea. Playing the music that you like is a good idea. Playing at volumes that are a small amount higher than what you normally listen to isn't a bad idea (though I don't really see the point). The bottom line is that they need to play for up to 100 hours before they sound good, and up to 50 they will sound pretty bad.
The only way to settle this is by asking whether Sennheiser designs them to sound 'right' as they leave the factory. Of course, if you claim this 'burn-in- happens, it would make quality control difficult or impossible. How can the mfrs tell when the product is madeproperly if it still needs to change once it leaves the factory? have you considered this?
post #21 of 265
Mike, these aren't hand crafted or anything. The headphones come off of an assembly line. I doubt they are even tested prior to shipping. The first sets that they made were probably burned in for a long period of time to make sure that they were actually built properly, but you can't honestly believe that every headphone that leaves the factory is tested. That would be a huge wast of time and money; easier to just exchange for a new one if it happens to be defective--hence having a warranty.
post #22 of 265
Speakers burn in, cables burn in . Headphones are speakesr with cables. Hence burn in occures. All ears are different some may notice a subtle difference, some may notice a dramatic difference.

nuff said Gary
post #23 of 265
I fully agree with radrd's statement. There is no way Sennheiser is doing testing on each and every pair. On the Orpheus, maybe... Although methinks if I spent $10K on headphones, I'd want them not only to be burned in previously, but to also be able to clean the house.

(-:Stephonovich:-)
post #24 of 265
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Originally posted by radrd
Mike, these aren't hand crafted or anything. The headphones come off of an assembly line. I doubt they are even tested prior to shipping. The first sets that they made were probably burned in for a long period of time to make sure that they were actually built properly, but you can't honestly believe that every headphone that leaves the factory is tested. That would be a huge wast of time and money; easier to just exchange for a new one if it happens to be defective--hence having a warranty.
But that doesn't answer the question of 'aim point', does it? The mfgr must know that they're going to change if you know it, right? So why don't we ask them if they're designing them for a burn-in period?
post #25 of 265
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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti
So why don't we ask them if they're designing them for a burn-in period?
There are headphones costing several times what the HD280s cost that will never reach the level of sound quality put out by a day-one HD280.

They look for consistency. Ever wonder what a MDR-V600 quality control center looks like? The same as any other.
post #26 of 265
Get two HD600's. One brand new and one fully burned in with hundreds of hours of use. Listen to them with the same source and material. See if there's a difference. Hope someone can try this.
post #27 of 265
Come'on Mike... are you telling me that you floor your car and drive it hard the minute you got it brand new out of the dealership? There is a break-in period for various components of the car, yet the car manufacturers are able to do quality control... Contridiction! lol! I'm doing too much mathematical proofs lately...

Well to me there is a burn-in effect, most noticable with the Sony 888...
post #28 of 265
About the car analogy, this is true. Dodge specifically states that if you exceed 70 MPH, or do any full-throttle accleration before 1000 miles have passed, (in the Viper, that is) your seals will not properly settle, and you may leak oil, and other problems. One should also not expect the best performance on out-of-the-box headphones.

(-:Stephonovich:-)
post #29 of 265
And to add to the car analogy a lot of audio manufacturers specify a certain period of time for burn in or often do a period of burn in themselves before the product ever leaves the building. When I worked for Swans Speakers we burned each set in for 24 hours before they ever left the factory. We felt they still got better with more time but that was not feasible, we got them over the initial hump though.

Also Mike, I'll reiterate. Your trolling looking for an argument here as you do in many threads. **** happens in threads on occasion and they get off track but you blatantly seem to be looking for arguments all the time. Nothing you have stated has anything to do with what SageOHaze asked. No where did I see SageOHaze ask "does burn in work?" or anything remotely close. If you want to start a debate on this why not start your own thread instead of ruining someone elses?
post #30 of 265
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Originally posted by GARYS
Speakers burn in, cables burn in . Headphones are speakesr with cables. Hence burn in occures
Wow. That's a profound statement. Care to prove it?

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Originally posted by Stephonovich
About the car analogy, this is true. Dodge specifically states that if you exceed 70 MPH, or do any full-throttle accleration before 1000 miles have passed, (in the Viper, that is) your seals will not properly settle, and you may leak oil, and other problems. One should also not expect the best performance on out-of-the-box headphones.

(-:Stephonovich:-)
What do the mechanics of an auromobile have to do with headphones?
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