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post #346 of 349
4/10/11 at 11:40pm

alright thanks in terms of sound are there any obvious differences? between the new and the old versions

 

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post #347 of 349
4/12/11 at 10:02pm
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alright thanks in terms of sound are there any obvious differences? between the new and the old versions

 


I compared the old vs new, and they sounded the same if I used the same pads - and if one pair had new pads and one had older pads then the differences were bigger from the flatness or fullness of ear pads than from if they were old style or new style phones. Flat worn pads make either of the phones sound more intimate and laid back, and new pads make the phones sound more spacious and sparkly.
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post #348 of 349
4/13/11 at 12:52am

wow you're right I've just tried to A/B both my headphones, and my HD650s ( with pretty worn pads ) had a 'thicker' sound, the signature was more lush sounding, while the HD600s were slightly more neutral. However my HD600 are defoamed ( foam removed from earcups ) so I guess it will also increase the neutral quality of the headphones. What's the difference between using a custom cable and a balanced one for the sennheisers? Will using balanced cables improve detail? So far I'm not able to detect a distinct difference between listening to the HD600s unbalanced and the HD650s balanced

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post #349 of 349
4/13/11 at 2:21am
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Why would they have updated the HD-580? It has been discontinued for some time.


He's probably thinking of the HD580J. Wasn't that the revision before the rebranded, speckled-chassis HD600 came out?
 

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I have a four year old pair of HD650 and recently bought a second pair for my computer setup. The second pair has a little more than 100 hours on them and are pretty much settled now (to my ears).
The difference is still obvious though: the new ones sound distinctly "snappier" and more forward than the old ones.
Just to check I asked my wife if she heard a difference, and without having any idea of which pair was old or new or what I was referring to she said the the old one was "darker" and "mellower".
Could be the age difference, but I wonder...
Try to swap pads. And at 100 hours burn in might still be incomplete.


True. Although I hear the opposite; the flatter, older pads are usually slower and darker on both my HD600 and SR225; similar thing with a couple of K701's I listened to. Not that it felt 'slower' or less 'snappy' but the soundstage wasn't as deep and sounds a lot like the HD600 on new pads. @Kees try pressing either closer to your ears and see if the sound changes more towards the other pair's.

 

 

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