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post #46 of 74
Hi, can anyone help, I have just purchased a new home rig but I can't get asio to work with foobar. At the moment I am running Optical cable from optical out on back of motherboard---> optical in on Zero DAC. I have installed asio4all and have put the dll file into the components file under foobar. It found this okay and when I open the asio setting my digital out is green (active). However when I go to foobar preferences and set output as asio v2, I get no sound?

Can anyone explain why this is happening?

Thanks
Steph
post #47 of 74
foobar affects volume of music, but XP volume doesn't.

I finds that odd, any reason?
post #48 of 74
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Originally Posted by Dougboy View Post
Sorry for being a noob, but i simply cannot tell the difference between normal output and ASIO. Something wrong with my ears? Ive A-B tested the two back and forth and they sound the same.

btw, im using vista32 > foobar v0.9.5.1 > 320kbps AAC > emu 0202 > SR60's
Isnt the benefit of ASIO to allow you to listen to lossless formats like FLAC in bitperfect?
post #49 of 74
Vista does not have to concern itself with kmixer (also known affectionately as kmangler) and so most won't be able to detect the differences.

That doesn't mean you don't have to do anything to ensure the best playback in Vista. If you are annoyed by system sounds etc. then you can set up foobar to use the WASAPI output module to force foobar to take exclusive control of the sound device. This means that while music is playing in Foobar, no other system sounds will play.
post #50 of 74
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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
Isnt the benefit of ASIO to allow you to listen to lossless formats like FLAC in bitperfect?
Couple of advantages.


In XP it bypasses the dreaded Kmixer & upsampling it does.
It is virtually sending your stored files directly to be played.

It exclusively plays music, i.e. no computer whooshes or browsing noises during music playback. PC audio turns back on when music is stopped[not player closed]...I think this is a big advantage.
post #51 of 74
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post
Does ASIO work together with EMU's proprietary drivers (for best results) when using the 0404 USB via USB for playback ?
Does it replace some of their functionality, are they (in?)compatible or are they simply handling two separated segments in the audio transfer chain and are therefore best used together (perhaps in some specific configuration) ?

I ask because I know EMU's drivers are one of the best (consumer) implementation of low-jitter transfer over USB and wondering what's the best way to maximize their potential. I'd like an expert opinion.
I'm reasonably certain the EMU drivers support ASIO natively, you should only need ASIO plugins for your playback app if it does not support ASIO natively.
post #52 of 74
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Originally Posted by b0dhi View Post
The volume might be louder with ASIO depending on your kmixer settings, but that doesn't mean ASIO isn't working. When you're in ASIO mode, if you move the winamp volume slider, the volume shouldn't change at all. If it does, it means you're still using the kmixer.
Does this apply to foobar as well? I have it set up with ASIO in output, and chose my Echo Mia soundcard under ASIO Virtual Devices. I am pretty sure I am running ASIO by doing this, but I am able to control the volume from the slider inside foobar.
post #53 of 74
I used Kernel Streaming w/foobar for years. I'd guess its an entirely 'non-invasive' process, i.e. its making the 1s & 0s bigger rather than actually altering data?

Also, ReplayGain is altering volume. If you couldn't change the volume in foobar, RG would not work.





Maybe its paranoia, but I'd say ASIO has increased SQ, perhaps its changing from Optical to USB?
post #54 of 74
I think one of the best methods to determine if ASIO is working is to download a DTS test track, set your system to output spdif and connect that to your DAC or receiver. If you get noise then ASIO is not working, if you get the test track then you're good to go.

A lot of reading but, most questions can be answered here and here.
post #55 of 74
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Originally Posted by MerlinWerks View Post
I think one of the best methods to determine if ASIO is working is to download a DTS test track, set your system to output spdif and connect that to your DAC or receiver. If you get noise then ASIO is not working, if you get the test track then you're good to go.

A lot of reading but, most questions can be answered here and here.
I do not understand this. Foobar has as far as I know not a built-in DTS decoder. How could a DTS file come out as anything other than white noise?
post #56 of 74
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Originally Posted by nor_spoon View Post
I do not understand this. Foobar has as far as I know not a built-in DTS decoder. How could a DTS file come out as anything other than white noise?
You set-up for spdif pass-through to a dac or receiver that does the decoding.
post #57 of 74
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Originally Posted by Operandi View Post
In regards to the Tektons, Fostex sells all their drivers to the DIY market along with plans for recommended cabinet designs. As far as I know all the Fostex speakers are straight full range designs with no crossover. Just the speaker, and wood (MDF in this case) for that they seem kinda expensive (they do look well made however).

It's not for everyone; but if you build the cabinet yourself you could have have the same speaker for a fraction of the cost. You could probably have a professional cabinet maker build them from hard wood to spec and it still probably be cheaper (and they wouldn't be orange).
No crossovers but sometimes a simple BSC filter is required depending on design and taste. Lots of good info and designs, here, here, here and here.
post #58 of 74
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Originally Posted by Chri5peed View Post
Couple of advantages.

It exclusively plays music, i.e. no computer whooshes or browsing noises during music playback. PC audio turns back on when music is stopped[not player closed]...I think this is a big advantage.

That's the greatest advantage for me, I could never really hear the difference between Kernel Streaming and ASIO. But I do love the way the hardware is locked to a single, specific program (foobar2000, GoldWave, etc), so I can listen to audio and not have an internet smiley ad blast HELLLOOOOOOO randomly into my eardrums...





EK
post #59 of 74
The other day my Juli@ soundcard croaked.


So, I decided to use the USB port of my MicroDAC, bypassing the need for a soundcard or using S/PDIF on motherboard.

I have the KS plugin for foobar. Not exactly sure why, I put foobar on the 'USB Device KS' output, but got no sound?[Yes changed XP audio]

So I tried the Direct Sound option, it worked fine. God, I didn't realise how much I love no external sound. So I got ASIO working...
post #60 of 74
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Originally Posted by evilking View Post
That's the greatest advantage for me, I could never really hear the difference between Kernel Streaming and ASIO.
That would make sense -- because there is none!

Additional confirmation that your ears are working properly...
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