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soundstage and imaging with electronic music?

post #1 of 11
3/29/08 at 5:04pm
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i've read some people say with electronic music, they want/need a headphone with a good soundstage/imaging. i'm using a pioneer elite pd-f109 as a source, hornet for amplification, and a pair of ultrasone pro750. the only tunes i've head some semblance of staging/imaging is with OLD tunes that were 100% hardware based.

am i going crazy, or is staging really present in electronic music? i listen to (in this order):

drum n bass
techno
house

eric b
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post #2 of 11
3/30/08 at 9:29am
Hey=]
I was waiting for some else with more experience to reply, but since they haven't, I'll give it a shot.

My main music is drum and bass, then chillout/downtempo. So my tastes are similiar to yours. I'd recommend the dt880's if you're strictly looking for great soundstage and imaging. If you're looking for great soundstage, imaging, AND bass that can do our music genres justice, I'd give the head-fi user Maza a pm(if he doesn't mind), since he has had the dt880, PL750, and one phone that I think will be your answer, the dt990(based on what I've read of them).

Good luck!
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post #3 of 11
3/30/08 at 9:45am
e-dub,

not sure what you mean about soundstaging not being present in electronic music. I find that there is a huge amount of soundstaging going on. For example, there might be a hi-hat panned 30% to the right, a clave sound panned 30% to the left, a synth arpeggio 50% to the right, etc.

Not to mention all of the reverb and delays that are present which tend to add a lot of space to the mix.

A lot of trance (like, say, pretty much anything associated with Above and Beyond) is great for checking a headphone's soundstage.

So, like I said, I'm not sure what you mean by lack of soundstage. Does everything you listen to sound like it's in mono?
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post #4 of 11
3/30/08 at 11:00am
Most of my tunes are electronic music, and I prefer headphones with soundstage and detail. IMO, soundstage is very important for electronic music since you need that "involving" feeling.
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post #5 of 11
3/30/08 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by denl82 View Post
Hey=]
I was waiting for some else with more experience to reply, but since they haven't, I'll give it a shot.

My main music is drum and bass, then chillout/downtempo. So my tastes are similiar to yours. I'd recommend the dt880's if you're strictly looking for great soundstage and imaging. If you're looking for great soundstage, imaging, AND bass that can do our music genres justice, I'd give the head-fi user Maza a pm(if he doesn't mind), since he has had the dt880, PL750, and one phone that I think will be your answer, the dt990(based on what I've read of them).

Good luck!
i'm not looking for staging, as i have heard some tunes with good soundstaging (rolando - jaguar is one that jumps to mind). i'm just wondering if most tunes are supposed to or not. i've heard the beyerdynamics before (a few times, actually) and they just don't do dance music the justice the 750 does.

eric b
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post #6 of 11
4/3/08 at 12:47am
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bump for more opinions?

eric b
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post #7 of 11
4/3/08 at 12:50am
Since you didn't list a budget. I'll recommend AD2000 for home use, and ES7 for portable use.
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post #8 of 11
4/3/08 at 1:10am
Thread Starter 
not asking for headphones suggestions, i just wanted to ask others if they detected staging in electronic music, particularly dance music

eric b
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post #9 of 11
4/3/08 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by e-dub View Post
not asking for headphones suggestions, i just wanted to ask others if they detected staging in electronic music, particularly dance music

eric b
oops - in that case - yes. Especially in trance.
Little harder to detect with my alessandros though.
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post #10 of 11
4/3/08 at 2:29am
x2 on trance and house when they cross fade L/R to give you a sense of staging and too me reverb helps with alot with my small stagish Grados. Curious on dt 990's.
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post #11 of 11
4/3/08 at 4:56pm
psy-trance usualy has quite a lot of staging.
Not dance music, but still electronic: noise and ambient can sometimes produce incredible distances (and weird ones as well). Try to find something from Dead Voices on Air, you'll see...
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