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post #1681 of 2474

Hi all,

 

 

I'm going to order my new components but I need your expert agreement : Can you confirm everything's ok, especially values of different components (as i'm a bit confused with some of them)

 

- output caps : 2x MUNDORF Silver / Gold / Oil  2.2uf  1000V 

- 1 Mundorf Silver / Gold / Oil  0,22uF 1200V

- shinkoh tantalum : 4 x 100R 1W + 2 x 390R 1W

- 470 uf cap : Elna silmic II RFS 35V

- Elna Silmic capacitors : 4 x ELNA Silmic II 2200uf 25V  + 1 x Elna Silmic II 1000uf 35v 

- 6 x AUDIENCE AuriCap (0,1uf  400v)  

 

I'm especially not sure of the voltage of the mundorf caps as one website says 1000V and another one says 1200V (?...). The 4 x 2200uf Elna Silmic Caps are 25V only as 35V are discontinued, is it important ?

 

 

I'm also going to buy Russian silver micas but I don't find them for the moment.

- 2 x Russian Silver Mica (0,01 uf) on C12

- 3 x Russian silver mica 0.1uf

 

Does it make sense for you ?


Edited by mako44 - 1/24/12 at 7:34am
post #1682 of 2474

This is my order of the shinkoh Resistors from Hifi Collective

2 x (RES-1S640) 390K 1W Shinkoh Resistor
4 x (RES-1S210) 100R 1W Shinkoh Resistor

 

It is the "K" you want after the 390 if you want them to be the original value ones.

Measured the same as the old ones I pulled out.

sr.JPG

 

Just checked the old one again.

IMG_4376b.jpg


Edited by rocky500 - 1/24/12 at 7:23pm
post #1683 of 2474

yes that's the ones I selected Rocky500

post #1684 of 2474


My Mundorf Caps are Silver/Gold Supreme, not the S/G Oil.  I think the other DIYers have used the Silver/Gold also.


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by mako44 View Post

Hi all,

 

 

I'm going to order my new components but I need your expert agreement : Can you confirm everything's ok, especially values of different components (as i'm a bit confused with some of them)

 

- output caps : 2x MUNDORF Silver / Gold / Oil  2.2uf  1000V 

- 1 Mundorf Silver / Gold / Oil  0,22uF 1200V

- shinkoh tantalum : 4 x 100R 1W + 2 x 390R 1W

- 470 uf cap : Elna silmic II RFS 35V

- Elna Silmic capacitors : 4 x ELNA Silmic II 2200uf 25V  + 1 x Elna Silmic II 1000uf 35v 

- 6 x AUDIENCE AuriCap (0,1uf  400v)  

 

I'm especially not sure of the voltage of the mundorf caps as one website says 1000V and another one says 1200V (?...). The 4 x 2200uf Elna Silmic Caps are 25V only as 35V are discontinued, is it important ?

 

 

I'm also going to buy Russian silver micas but I don't find them for the moment.

- 2 x Russian Silver Mica (0,01 uf) on C12

- 3 x Russian silver mica 0.1uf

 

Does it make sense for you ?



 

post #1685 of 2474

Yes I saw but I thought that Silver/gold & Oil would still be better as it's the upper range don't you think ?

 

Did number and values of the other components seem good to you ?

 

Someone spoke about 6 x audience auricap 0.1uf but in fact I count 7 in the havana... rolleyes.gif

 

 

post #1686 of 2474
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Originally Posted by mako44 View Post

Yes I saw but I thought that Silver/gold & Oil would still be better as it's the upper range don't you think ?

 


 


Remember upper range doesn't always mean better, silver/gold sounds perfect in Havana but take a risk and install SGIO.

I also tried Elna Silmic II 3300uF and compared them with  Elna ROB Tonerex 3300uF. (PS Big filtering caps 3300uF are better than 2200uF in the case of Havana)

Tonerex is more natural and I liked them much better, so lower grade doen't mean worse,

but the best cap choice is Black Gate FK series. Elna Silmic II is not as half good as BG "Fk", "F", "NX" series.

 

Everyone makes his choice and that is right.

post #1687 of 2474
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Originally Posted by rocky500 View Post

Are these the correct Schottky Diodes.

http://au.element14.com/infineon/idv02s60c/diode-schottky-600v-2a-to220fp/dp/1844978

 

element14 is good for us in Australia as it is free freight.

 

Reverse Recovery Time trr Max: 10ns

Is there 8 of them to change?



I think it's ok, x8 yes

 

post #1688 of 2474

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Originally Posted by robeeert1 View Post


Remember upper range doesn't always mean better, silver/gold sounds perfect in Havana but take a risk and install SGIO.

I also tried Elna Silmic II 3300uF and compared them with  Elna ROB Tonerex 3300uF. (PS Big filtering caps 3300uF are better than 2200uF in the case of Havana)

Tonerex is more natural and I liked them much better, so lower grade doen't mean worse,

but the best cap choice is Black Gate FK series. Elna Silmic II is not as half good as BG "Fk", "F", "NX" series.

 

Everyone makes his choice and that is right.



Thanks for your comments Robeeert I'll look at that.

 

I will also order 8 Shottky diodes if I find some. Small question : do "russian silver micas" are different of these "Silver micas" : http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/silver_mica.html ?

 

 

EDIT : #### Elna 3300uf look discontinued too...

 


Edited by mako44 - 1/24/12 at 12:52pm
post #1689 of 2474
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Originally Posted by mako44 View Post


I will also order 8 Shottky diodes if I find some. Small question : do "russian silver micas" are different of these "Silver micas" : http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/silver_mica.html ?

 


I've just received some values of silver mica caps from hificollective for my new DIY DAC some days ago, compare them with russian, let you know about the differences.

Russian are cheap and should be better.

 

 

 

 

 

post #1690 of 2474

Robert,


 

What do you recommend for the PS Caps, 3300uf and Black Gate FK?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by robeeert1 View Post


Remember upper range doesn't always mean better, silver/gold sounds perfect in Havana but take a risk and install SGIO.

I also tried Elna Silmic II 3300uF and compared them with  Elna ROB Tonerex 3300uF. (PS Big filtering caps 3300uF are better than 2200uF in the case of Havana)

Tonerex is more natural and I liked them much better, so lower grade doen't mean worse,

but the best cap choice is Black Gate FK series. Elna Silmic II is not as half good as BG "Fk", "F", "NX" series.

 

Everyone makes his choice and that is right.



 

post #1691 of 2474

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Originally Posted by LionelH2 View Post

Robert,
 

What do you recommend for the PS Caps, 3300uf and Black Gate FK?



I recommend higher value like 3300uF instead of 2200uF, BG higher values will cost a fortune! (I do not recommend)

You may use Elna Simlic II, Vishay, Elna ROB tonerex .

 

 

And higher voltage is always better but Check the size of the caps before you purchase


Edited by robeeert1 - 1/24/12 at 1:50pm
post #1692 of 2474


Dumb question - do I buy the radial leads version or the "snap in" version?
 

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Originally Posted by robeeert1 View Post

Quote:



I recommend higher value like 3300uF instead of 2200uF, BG higher values will cost a fortune! (I do not recommend)

You may use Elna Simlic II, Vishay, Elna ROB tonerex .

 

 

And higher voltage is always better but Check the size of the caps before you purchase



 

post #1693 of 2474
Quote:
Originally Posted by mako44 View Post

Yes I saw but I thought that Silver/gold & Oil would still be better as it's the upper range don't you think ?

 

Did number and values of the other components seem good to you ?

 

Someone spoke about 6 x audience auricap 0.1uf but in fact I count 7 in the havana... rolleyes.gif

 

 


I changed 7 Auricap capacitors (0,1uf). There is no recipe, or change them all or do not change. I chose to change all film stock capacitors becouse I haven't agreed to have cheap and mediocre quality capacitors. This was the only reason. What followed later was still positive meaning that you can satisfied.

 

post #1694 of 2474
Quote:
Originally Posted by robeeert1 View Post


Remember upper range doesn't always mean better, silver/gold sounds perfect in Havana but take a risk and install SGIO.

I also tried Elna Silmic II 3300uF and compared them with  Elna ROB Tonerex 3300uF. (PS Big filtering caps 3300uF are better than 2200uF in the case of Havana)

 


Robeeert, do you think Elna Silmic 3300uf 50V are ok for the havana ? It's a real pain to find 2200 or 3300 35V, they are discontinued everywhere... (and I don't find black gate neither).


 

 

post #1695 of 2474
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Originally Posted by mako44 View Post


Robeeert, do you think Elna Silmic 3300uf 50V are ok for the havana ? It's a real pain to find 2200 or 3300 35V, they are discontinued everywhere... (and I don't find black gate neither).


 

 

.
You will not fit 3300uF 50V in the Havana. Check the sizes and spaces.

 

You can easily fit these,

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Elna-Tonerex-ROB-3300uF-25V-Audio-Kondensator-2St-/370387449418?pt=Lautsprecher_Selbstbau&hash=item563ccff64a

 

Note that Elna Silmic II are considered to be better than Elna ROB TONEREX, but my impressions were different.

I finally installed ROB TONEREX 3300uF 25V. (ROB is unbeatable for its naturalness for me)

 

BG high capacitance are very hard to find and very expensive.

 

Make your own choice. 

 

 

 

 


Edited by robeeert1 - 1/26/12 at 5:26am
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