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post #16 of 80
10/25/01 at 3:23pm
Hey Vert, how about the Mark Levinson R3 speakers with a ribbon tweeter. They go for $3500.



Or get the Baby Reference System with the M5 integrated tube amp.



http://www.redrosemusic.com/index.htm
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post #17 of 80
10/25/01 at 3:24pm
Vertigo,

Sorry to hear about your problem.

While I've never heard them myself, I'd like to suggest a speaker using a Raven tweeter, which is very highly regarded in the DIY community. It is available in kits (see www.zalytron.com and www.e-speakers.com), but if you're not into the whole DIY thing I imagine you could find a completed kit somewhere. The downside is that you probably won't be able to listen before you buy. At any rate, just wanted to throw that out there, and wish you the best.

Dave
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post #18 of 80
10/25/01 at 3:26pm
The problem with bookshelf speakers (call standmounter) are that they need a pair of solid stands for them to be at their best. So for a pair of standmounter at around $1000, you are looking at a minimum of an extra $200 for a pair of stands.

If you want some advice on speakers setup, go to www.futureforums.co.uk/hifichoice .

And if you do get a pair, you'll need some good speaker cables and a good quailty amp. At least in the region of your speakers in terms of price to bring out the best in them. And with speakers (good ones), you can hear flaws that you won't know you had in your headphones setup (i.e. CD player) much easily. And it's also better for your ears (hope they are fine btw).
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post #19 of 80
10/25/01 at 3:27pm
acidtripwow, I forgot about those! I'm actually going to listen to them in a week or so. There's a hifi shop in Austin that carries Red Rose stuff, and I'm going to the U2 concert, and plan on stopping by. They also happen to carry the Holmes Powell DCT1 and 2
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post #20 of 80
10/25/01 at 3:46pm
Vert: I *really* hope it turns out to be something minor that goes away (or a wisdom teeth issue).

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On another note, another person told me it'd be a total waste of money to spend so much on speakers for the sake of quiet listening only...might as well stick to PC speakers then. True?
Totally not true. Even at very low volumes, a good pair of speakers will trash a set of cheap PC speakers.

On the other hand, if you're used to headphones, and I know you like lots of detail, you may find speakers to be disappointing at first. Due to room interactions and interference, etc., you'll likely find that speakers don't have the same detail as your headphones. You are also going to lose a lot on the low end with smaller speakers. Just a warning

As for small, hi-end speakers, I've heard lots of great things about the Triangle Titus ($495/pr).

http://www.triangle-fr.com/anglais/etitus.htm

These are the only speakers under $1000 that are rated Class B or higher by Stereophile. They've gotten rave reviews everywhere I have looked. They are known for their detailed sound and huge soundstage, and some people claim they really make the music sound "live." Based on the reviews I've read, they seem to be perfect for your preferences (now that I'm familiar with your preferences ).

Finally, as raymondlin said, you'll need a good pair of stands if you want to get the best out of your speakers (the Titus are available with some stylin' custom stands for $300). I've seen the Titus with the custom stands for $725.
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post #21 of 80
10/25/01 at 4:11pm
Flumpus, be sure to let us know what you think. I don't know if anybody in Chicago has a set. The HI-FI shops I've been to here have really sucked. They had lame stuff hooked up and then they didn't want to talk to you unless you came to buy a big ticket item.
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post #22 of 80
10/25/01 at 4:31pm
Your problems can very well be related to your jaw. For example, you may look like a dork doing this, but try moving your jaw around to their left/right extremes. You may notice sensations in your ears.

This doesn't mean you shouldn't be very safe...just don't be selling off everything yet.
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post #23 of 80
10/25/01 at 4:42pm
Thread Starter 
Tim D, if I move my jaw left and right, I can hear little crackling sounds in my ears, if this means anything...
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post #24 of 80
10/25/01 at 5:52pm
both of these are excellent depend on ur tastes. the utopias are probably out of your price range, but worth looking at anyway

http://soundstage.com/revequip/revel_performa_m20.htm

http://soundstage.com/revequip/jmlab_mini_utopia.htm
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post #25 of 80
10/25/01 at 5:57pm
I try to post some more information later :

Tinnitus - noises in your ears or head - is experienced by about one in seven people at some point. The noises may be quiet or loud, and can be hissing, rushing or other sounds.

Research suggests that tinnitus is not just an ear disorder, but that parts of the brain that interpret sound patterns can cause small tinnitus signals to be amplified. You may get tinnitus if you develop a hearing loss, after listening to loud sounds, or for no clear reason at all. There are various therapies for tinnitus; one of the newest is retraining therapy.
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post #26 of 80
10/25/01 at 5:59pm
Vertigo, I get those crackling sounds too... probably doesn't mean anything.... I think at least...
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post #27 of 80
10/25/01 at 6:03pm
Try these links for more info :

http://www.ata.org

http://www.hearusa.com/tinnitus/tinnitus_home.html

http://www.tinnitus.org

http://www.bixby.org/faq/tinnitus.html

http://www.tinnitus-pjj.com

http://www.entnet.org/tinnitus.html

http://www.eskimo.com/~carol/T.html

http://members.aol.com/MyTinnitus

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/tinnitus.html

http://deafness.about.com/library/weekly/aa021097.htm
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post #28 of 80
10/25/01 at 6:36pm

Re: Need a speaker suggestion...

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Originally posted by Vertigo-1
Price is not a problem (well, not out of this world either, but I think small speakers can only be so much too)...because my headphone collection is worth what, $3-4000?
Heh heh. My dad's corollary to P.T. Barnum's "there's a sucker born every minute" was "for any amount you want to spend, there's someone out there willing to take more". Definitely true in the case of speakers. No matter how expensive a setup you find, you can always find a setup more expensive.

(Sorry, dude, don't mean to make light of your problem, but I thought you might do with some cheering up.)

Whoever told you that you were wasting your time hasn't heard quality audio.

Can't tell you about the low-level resolution, but I really love my Spendor S3/5's. What's good about them is that they're sealed, so they truly are bookshelf speakers (you can put them on a bookshelf, etc., there's no port in back to block or whatever). What's bad about them is that they're not shielded, I don't think, also, super-highs aren't there (I think the spec says 18kHz). (I highly, highly recommend shielded.) I think the aforementioned Genelecs are shielded, and they're thought very highly of in the professional community.
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post #29 of 80
10/25/01 at 6:52pm
One thing to consider with speakers is where they'll be placed. I had a problem in my study where I needed them to be close to the wall, and many otherwise good speakers were too boomy there. I ended up with Linn Tukans which I'm very happy with. It has the same ceramic tweeter as their top of the line model. I took a quick look at Linn's website and it looks like they've been replaced with a new model which I haven't heard. http://www.linn.co.uk/spec_sound/pro.../index.cfm#127

Other consideration is that at low levels the ear is less sensitive to low frequencies. This is was a "loudness" switch that many amps used to have was supposed to compensate for, but of course ususally did not work well. The problem is that in order to work well it has to be adjustable or set to work with speakers with known sensitivity and bass response. So you may want an amp that has a bass control, which most of the better amps don't have. If you got speakers that had enough bass at low listening levels, they will be too bassy at higher levels.
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post #30 of 80
10/25/01 at 9:33pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the speaker suggestions so far, it's really helping since the speaker world is a WHOLE new world for me. And I haven't even gotten into the amps and speaker cables yet. Stands...not sure that I have space for them, my plan was for these to replace my current Midiland S2-4100 PC speakers, but depending on how things go I just might make a whole new setup from scratch, and place it on the side exclusively for music. As Braver said, even if my ears turn out fine, I've always wanted a nice little speaker set aside for music, so I might just ditch some headphones and look into doing this anyways.

As far as the bass goes, I might miss it especially since my current PC speakers are mated with a *pretty* high quality 8 inch subwoofer...but then again the subwoofer is exactly what kicks out most noise at night. Going out into the kitchen, my sats were inaudible, but I could hear the bass reverbing through the walls. So I think not having much bass won't be a problem, but at the same time like pigmode said, if I FIND the time to go cranking the speakers, it should provide a decent amount of bass...but God forbid the type of hollow, boxy bass you get from your typical cheap mass market wooden bookshelfs trying to reproduce bass it can't!

On another note, maybe I could take out the sats in my current setup and mate just the sub to an amp and use the new speakers with it. Probably would be good. Or on an even more ridiculous note, what if I took out my current sats and just attached the new speakers in place of them? I suppose THAT would be a waste of money but... The sub contains a 50w amp to drive the sats, 25 to each channel. Unless there's ohm issues or the amp is totally subpar, would this be at all thinkable? There's also bass, loudness, and treble controls all included.

Like MacDEF said, I'm rather into details...nice sparkly brilliant highs especially tend to get me going, especially as in this case I can't bother much with the lows and have it loud enough to "feel it in your gut" anyways. Since I haven't been hearing that much lately with headphones, you guys think speakers might be able to bring that treble back to my ears? Well actually I know it can from that speaker demo I heard with the Linn Sondek CD12, the speakers were just pumping out cymbals like I was at a live performance, 15 feet away from the stage. But can bookshelfs pull that off?

Those Mark Levinsons look sweet...but umm a bit outta my range even with my entire headphone system sold. So I guess I'm looking at speakers that are in the $1000 range...but what are some places I could buy this stuff from anyways? Like those speakers wab posted, I tried looking for dealers but I couldn't mind any online.


KR, I don't think I have tinnitus, since I don't hear any constant ringing at all. However if tinnitus can give you constant 24 hour pain, than maybe I have that. But I always thought tinnitus was a problem you *hear*, not feel.
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