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post #16 of 40
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Originally Posted by -=Germania=- View Post
The line out is just awesome, definately better than the 6G Classic (I tried it). I had a 5G before and it was better than that. The line out is one of the best that apple has created ( sans the 1G mini).
Wow, you mean better than the 5G/6G line-out? That would definitely be good news.
post #17 of 40
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ihatepopupads View Post
The line out is amazing, very powerful and clean it seems better than nano 2g 3g and 5.5.

Yes, this and Germania's comments have me very interested in the Touch now. I thought my 5G was quite acceptable and was only worried about a step backwards. Better is, well, even better!
post #18 of 40
the touch has been one of my favourite sounding players and i really don't bother with the lod any more but i have one and got rid of my amp. it is nice qables lod which i have on sale but yes, it does do well with line out but...

i am no more sacrificing the portability of this badboy!
post #19 of 40
quick question for everyone. are the line-out pins the same as other ipods? i.e. can I use LODs from other ipods for the touch?
post #20 of 40
[QUOTE=CAvanessia;3952815]quick question for everyone. are the line-out pins the same as other ipods? i.e. can I use LODs from other ipods for the touch?[/QUOT


Yes, no worries!
post #21 of 40
I find the Touch line out to amp is very nice, and the headphone out is not bad either. It wont kill my iMod but it holds it's own ground.
post #22 of 40
Really? Thanks for the info HPA. I will consider giving the Touch another try once the prices drop.
post #23 of 40
I just got the PocketDock that I ordered a while ago, so now I can actually speak to the quality of the iPod Touch line out quality. WOW!!!

The difference between the headphone out, and line out is night and day. Clarity, soundstage, extension are back. I finally feel that I'm not losing out as much by moving to this from my Karma.

I tried amping the headphone out, and it did improve things a little bit, it was
still not as good as I would have hoped. Straight out of the headphone jack, I wasn't impressed. But now with the lineout, going through the amplifier, the sound is fantastic.

The setup is iPod Touch > pocketDock > Cardas 8" HPI > Xin Mini IV > Westone UM2.

Definitely worth amping the line out with the Touch.

-Jeff
post #24 of 40
How is the Touch lineout compared to, say a DAP like the Cowon D2 or Meizu M6? Is it comparable, or are the D2 and M6 still superior (amped and/or unamped)?
post #25 of 40
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Originally Posted by robojack View Post
How is the Touch lineout compared to, say a DAP like the Cowon D2 or Meizu M6? Is it comparable, or are the D2 and M6 still superior (amped and/or unamped)?
I expect the touch + LOD to be clearly superior to both DAPs.
post #26 of 40
I just posted this in the other iPod touch thread.

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Originally Posted by joneeboi View Post
Hi, my name is Jon, and I've been using my iPod touch for 5 days.

I try to be as objective as possible when playing with the touch. In my eyes, Apple's always gotten an unnecessarily bad rap just because of the chips on peoples' shoulders. I don't mind the iPod so much, and I actually prefer it to the few players I've used. More specifically, when I tried justifying the place of the touch in my repertoire of carry-along accessories, it doesn't seem to fit anywhere in my list of needs. To set the record straight, you absolutely cannot dismiss the multi-touch screen, the slimness, the jailbreakability, or the cool factor of having the newest toy in town. Surely, there are lots of downsides to owning an iPod, and let me list a few: handcuffed to iTunes, people splashing red paint all over you, getting robbed, breaking the bank just buying the darn thing, the list goes on.

As FallenAngel mentioned, the sound quality should be quite similar to the iPod video as they share the same Wolfson DAC chip. Discounting the touch's sound quality means you're cutting down the iMod 5G/5.5G and diyMod 5G/5.5G (as well as all the other different name, similar technique mods) reviews, which is quite a large and loud crowd. Once I figure out how to diyMod the thing, I'll report on the sound quality. Thus far, I compared it to my diyMod 4G which has a difference Wolfson chip and bass is much less weighty in the touch. It actually disgusted me how little bass it was putting out, and I currently haven't uploaded any music onto it since.

As a video player, it is probably only rivalled by the Zune [and Archos players], which can accept something other than MPEG4/H.264 and also ha[ve] quite large screen[s]. I encoded some Scrubs using Videora (lowest quality setting for fastest processing) and the experience is almost better than on my laptop (Toshiba Satellite A100 if you care, the lowest of all Toshiba models). If I can figure out how to use spreadsheets on the thing, it will become my dedicated gym device. Right now, I have an iPod in one pocket and my Palm Treo 680 in the other for purposes of recording my workout routine data. Things would be a lot easier if I could throw it all onto one device. My last workout, I tried going with the iPod touch, diyMod 4G, and Treo 680. It didn't really "work out" as I had planned. (A pun. Bonus!)

Earlier, I mentioned slimness as a positive, but I've quickly learned the other side of that double-edged sword. My hand can cramp up just holding it, and I think it can be way too thin at times. I prefer holding my friend's jailbroken+unlocked iPhone, as it is a bit heftier and easier to hold. My Treo has one of the best weights, dimensions, and tactile experiences of any device I've held so far. I didn't like holding the iPhone as much as I like holding my 680, but admittedly, it has a lot to live up to. Just saying, whether with human bodies or iPod shells, thin isn't always good.

Jailbreaking. In three words, "useless to me." The stock iPod touch doesn't have much going for it by way of apps, but jailbreaking doesn't much alleviate that. I don't find any use for any of the things I downloaded. Sure, you get NES and SNES, but it's really lame playing them. Not my cup of tea. Perhaps I haven't found the good stuff yet, but what do I really need besides some sort of MS Excel/Open Excel spreadsheet program?

To wrap things up, the iPod touch isn't really useful to me except as a gym device. Even if I diyMod it, I don't have any room for music and videos. Currently, the device for me is the iPod video 5G/5.5G. I'll eventually sell the touch to get it. In the mean time, I'm going to keep trying to diyMod it and see if someone wants to buy a torn up iPod touch from a reckless DIYer.

Cheers.
post #27 of 40
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by joneeboi View Post
As FallenAngel mentioned, the sound quality should be quite similar to the iPod video as they share the same Wolfson DAC chip. Discounting the touch's sound quality means you're cutting down the iMod 5G/5.5G and diyMod 5G/5.5G (as well as all the other different name, similar technique mods) reviews, which is quite a large and loud crowd. Once I figure out how to diyMod the thing, I'll report on the sound quality. Thus far, I compared it to my diyMod 4G which has a difference Wolfson chip and bass is much less weighty in the touch. It actually disgusted me how little bass it was putting out, and I currently haven't uploaded any music onto it since.

Ok, I am totally confused here. You are saying that bass is disgusting in the iPod Video from line out, 5G & 5.5G iMods, and the iPod Touch line out?

That seems to contradict everything posted in this thread so far. I was on my way out the door to buy a Touch, but I don't want a player that sounds worse than my stock 5G. Of course, I don't think the bass in my player is disgusting so... ??
post #28 of 40
Macbook > USB > PICO > Woodied HF-1

vs

Touch > ALO Jumbo Silver Cryo X LOD > PICO > HF-1

No bass loss here, sounds VERY similar, frightening so !!
post #29 of 40
I'm not sure I totally follow. In summary, is the consensus that the Touch is better than any prior generation, but not as good as an IMod? Wonder if the touch could be modified.
post #30 of 40
I said it above, and will repeat, the line out of the Touch ipod dock connector jack is very good.

With the right LOD and amp, as above, it sounds good enough to not mod and just enjoy.
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