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post #31 of 44
Thank you very much for the nice review, I just plan to buy a Se530.
post #32 of 44
hmmm, i have a slight disagreement, maybe it's because you didn't do the comparison with lots of music genres and tried out multiple EQ's to see what fits the genres. I guess not everyone is a freak like me. Anyways, what i know of from trying all these earphones, the Shure's Bass is not Overwhelming and doesn't sacrifice the high's or mids. The ety's high's are also around the Shures. The mid's ARe ABSOLUTELY crazy on the Shures, and the HIgh's are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING on the TF 10 pro's. Comfort and fit? i find the Shure's a lot more comfortable then the tr 10 pros, the memory wire gets in the way a lot of the times for me, as because when you try to put it over your ear, the memory wire may very well fit perfectly around your ear. but when you put it on, then it often gets stuck when putting them on a angle. then you have to redo everything again.
Also, the part that you said about not having to make as much "EQ" adjustments with the TF 10 Pro's and more with the Se530. You can't say that that's PURER sound because, EQ adjustments are for what ever YOU or YOURSELF prefers. Some may like it bassier, some may like it have clearer highs. Now you're probably thinking i'm some kind of nerd or something but actually it's just my job, i'm an audio engineer...
post #33 of 44
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule View Post
One could say that the review is somewhat skewered then, because common saying is that because the triple.fi is of low impedance and easy to drive in its nature, then it would trump the E500/SE530, who needs more "juice" and power to shine.
In my mind, the SE530 is an absolute dog when amped (not that it's much better unamped too)... Violins/strings sound muted to the max... worse than using a metal practice mute. Totally unrealistic. I regret my purchase, and am in the process of exchanging it.
post #34 of 44
That's it, i'm getting TF10s
post #35 of 44
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In my mind, the SE530 is an absolute dog when amped (not that it's much better unamped too)... Violins/strings sound muted to the max... worse than using a metal practice mute. Totally unrealistic. I regret my purchase, and am in the process of exchanging it.
You've either got a bad set or a bad fit. That is not describing the SE530 that I know so well, not at all.
post #36 of 44
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You've either got a bad set or a bad fit. That is not describing the SE530 that I know so well, not at all.
Not enough overtones (strings sound like muted..), harsh "supposed" treble (they're supposed to be treble but doesn't sound like it through SE530), mid-bass leaks a bit over and muddying what's left of the treble. So I'm the only one with these opinions on the Shure SE530? Shocking...

For pop music, I can tolerate it no problem, especially since it has some forward midrange that I love... but once I start listening to classicals on these, there's no way I can tolerate it.
post #37 of 44
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Not enough overtones (strings sound like muted..), harsh "supposed" treble (they're supposed to be treble but doesn't sound like it through SE530), mid-bass leaks a bit over and muddying what's left of the treble. So I'm the only one with these opinions on the Shure SE530? Shocking...

For pop music, I can tolerate it no problem, especially since it has some forward midrange that I love... but once I start listening to classicals on these, there's no way I can tolerate it.
What tips are you using with them?
How well does it block the outside sound?
How deep to you wear them in your ears (shallow, medium, or way deep in there)?

I found the Shure yellow foam tips sounded the best, but the black foam tips were the most comfortable and longer lasting while sounding almost as good. And I discovered that I had to wear them pushed very deep into my ears to get the sparkle in the highs (trimming the black foam tips shorter helped too). They did become slightly sibilant at that point, but not too bad. But nothing was muddied up, and the highs and mids were crisp and smooth with good detail - once I got the fit right.
post #38 of 44
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What tips are you using with them?
How well does it block the outside sound?
How deep to you wear them in your ears (shallow, medium, or way deep in there)?

I found the Shure yellow foam tips sounded the best, but the black foam tips were the most comfortable and longer lasting while sounding almost as good. And I discovered that I had to wear them pushed very deep into my ears to get the sparkle in the highs (trimming the black foam tips shorter helped too). They did become slightly sibilant at that point, but not too bad. But nothing was muddied up, and the highs and mids were crisp and smooth with good detail - once I got the fit right.
Tried all tips... The foams are worse for highs, as expected... I settled on the olives. The Shure SE530 are designed to sit the housing just outside of the ear canal, so there's no way to push anymore in there, unless you push the housing in too?

O I hope they're sibilant, but not... I just feel the harshness. Do you listen to orchestral music or play some? There's not enough overtones to reproduce strings here, not even half accurately.

As I said, I really think that I will like the SE530 if I just listen to digitalized and amplified music (band, pop....) and if I only listen to music on the go...
post #39 of 44
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Originally Posted by parrot5 View Post
Tried all tips... The foams are worse for highs, as expected... I settled on the olives. The Shure SE530 are designed to sit the housing just outside of the ear canal, so there's no way to push anymore in there, unless you push the housing in too?

O I hope they're sibilant, but not... I just feel the harshness. Do you listen to orchestral music or play some? There's not enough overtones to reproduce strings here, not even half accurately.

As I said, I really think that I will like the SE530 if I just listen to digitalized and amplified music (band, pop....) and if I only listen to music on the go...
Strings sound fine with SE530. Are yours used and is it possible the sound tube is plugged with wax or pocket fuzz?
post #40 of 44
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Strings sound fine with SE530. Are yours used and is it possible the sound tube is plugged with wax or pocket fuzz?
Strings "project". Instead of natural projection, through the SE530 it sounds like "amplification" (sound like those amplified strings during a concert) Again, acoustic vs. digialized/amplified. I stress again that I agree it is fine for amplified music.

Mine is new, been running it for a couple of days.
post #41 of 44
The 530's bass sounds natural. BOOMY!? What were you listening to? For instrumentals, the bass sounds natural and is not overwhelming.
post #42 of 44
Shure bass is one of the best out there, tight, not overwhelming, accurate, hard hitting, nice texture and go deep enough. But TF10 Pro high is really drooling.
post #43 of 44
nice review, i want a triple fi since they┬┤re come into production, just one of the better in ear, but now i having thinking about the westone um3x. are they better then the triple fi?

i like analytical sound, with some bass not a sharper bass like the e4r!!!
post #44 of 44

Atrios versus the rest

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How are the TF10s compared to Futuresonics' Atrio line of IEMs? In terms of bass quality (especially) and quantity?
I had a pair of Atrio M8s, and they definitely have the best bass of any IEM I've heard. Unfortunately, the mids and highs are rubbish.
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