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post #16 of 97
Nice read, Stan.......thanks. Your assessment of the sonics of the two pretty much correlates with mine, except that I prefer the D66s. I find them more balanced overall.
post #17 of 97

Re: MDR-V6 VS. D66 Eggo (long comparison)

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Originally posted by stan23


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Overall, i've been very impressed with the Eggos, but it lacks a certain hi-end sound to them (detail?) that makes it hard for me to reach for them when I have some V6s in the way. This is especially true, if i'm in the mood for some energizing music on a mundane workday. Perhaps my take on them will change with time, but at the moment, I prefer the quirky bassy sound of the V6s with the music that *I* listen too. Others may not agree with my assessment, but it’s just my untrained opinion.

The D-77 has that "high-end sound" as far as I'm concerned.
post #18 of 97
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The D-77 has that "high-end sound" as far as I'm concerned.
For the price it runs today...i certainly hope so . anyway, let's stick with the 66 only here please.
post #19 of 97
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Originally posted by soupy
For the price it runs today...i certainly hope so . anyway, let's stick with the 66 only here please.
Well, they do show up from time to time on e-bay, and perhaps elsewhere, so it's not completely irrelevant.
post #20 of 97

Re: MDR-V6 VS. D66 Eggo (long comparison)

Thanks for posting the review, stan. I too agree about the V6's sounding better

Some of my own thoughts:
I don't necessarily agree with some of the points you make: I actually found the V6's more comfortable despite their weight. Now I might be in the minority here, since this might have to do with the shape of the top of my head, but I found the headband of the Eggos digging into my head. I'd expected the headband to be rubber-coated flexible cylindrical metal rods with a larger diameter; what it actually is, is flexible wires encased in rubber "tubing", and only one of the two exerts all the pressure. The clamping also bothered me, and I doubt stretching would make a significant difference - that's just the way they're designed.

I do agree about the Eggos having better soundstaging. However, sometimes they sounded echoey with certain kinds of music (primarily acoustic jazz ensembles). The lack of bass was the biggest disappointment for me too; many people tend to think of the bass as an isolated part of the frequency response, but good bass enhances mid-range too, and makes for a more pleasurable listening experience, regardless of whether you're a bass-head or not. Due to the lean bass, mids tend to lack weight and fullness in the Eggos, and the upper-mid/treble emphasis in these cans made them too bright for me with most rock and electronica. Classical and acoustic jazz are where these would fare best, IMO.

I actually wouldn't classify the Eggos as warm - in fact, I found them too bright. I doubt burning-in would have made a sea-change. When I switched back and forth between the V6's and the eggos, while soundstage diminished, the punch and energy made listening to the V6's more enjoyable for me.

I found the contrast even more startling when I switched to my KSC-35's. Granted, they're open, but as far portable phones I think it's a no-contest. Despite their somewhat boomy bass/mid-bass, I thought the KSC-35's won hands-down. Just plain enjoyable! They do lack the presence and sparkle of the Eggos, but I prefer a more laid-back treble to something that causes me to reach for the volume level all the time. Comfort is also a no-brainer. KSC-35's just disappear after a while.

Bottom line: The Eggos shared too many of the "analytical sound" traits of the V6's, while at the same time lacking in their positive attributes, namely deep bass punch. This, along with the comfort issue was the reason I decided to sell my Eggos. As portable phones, I was much happier with my KSC-35's - and they didn't cost me a pretty penny either
post #21 of 97
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post #22 of 97
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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti
Well, they do show up from time to time on e-bay, and perhaps elsewhere, so it's not completely irrelevant.
let's stick with the d66 only here please.
post #23 of 97
I also agree that I prefer my V6 over the D66, but by a wide margin. The lack of impactful bass from the eggos did it for me. For $100 I expected better from the eggos but for me they were a huge disappointment. I even prefer my KSC35 over the eggos anyday. I just find the 35 more enjoyable than the eggos.

My rating:
V6 > KSC35 > D66 eggos
post #24 of 97
Great review =)
Thank you very much.
post #25 of 97
Mike, you do realize that you can edit your own posts, right? If you get rid of that unnecessary quote, I'm sure a few people would appreciate it.
post #26 of 97
Thanks for the review! I've already ordered the D66 Eggos a few days ago and it should be arriving in a week or so. I don't consider myself a bass-head either, but I do enjoy bass. I just don't like it when the bass is so much that it's harder to have a good musical balance. I'll see how I like the Eggos once I receive it, although I don't have a pair of V6 to compare with.
post #27 of 97
Thread Starter 
The ULTIMATE portable headphone for me would be something of a cross between the D66 / V6.

Take the D66 ergonomics / portability. General soundstage and liquid mids, throw in a dash of the V6's analytical foward sound. Smooth out the bass, and you got yourself a 'perfect' portable headphone.

As much as I love the D66 (and I do) I just find something completely missing or off.


dragonlong - Do yourself a big favor and DO_NOT A/B the Eggos with the V6! You're gonna be scratching your head wondering where all the bass went

post #28 of 97
I highly doubt that I ever will A/B the V6 and Eggos. hehehe

I'll be getting the Eggos soon, and if afterwards I decide to buy new headphones, they'll be the next level up or higher rather than something in the same class. I'll try to compare the D66, EX71, and E888 though since I'll be receiving them all in the same shipment.
post #29 of 97
Thread Starter 

Re: Re: MDR-V6 VS. D66 Eggo (long comparison)

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Originally posted by Ozric

I do agree about the Eggos having better soundstaging. However, sometimes they sounded echoey with certain kinds of music (primarily acoustic jazz ensembles). The lack of bass was the biggest disappointment for me too; many people tend to think of the bass as an isolated part of the frequency response, but good bass enhances mid-range too, and makes for a more pleasurable listening experience, regardless of whether you're a bass-head or not. Due to the lean bass, mids tend to lack weight and fullness in the Eggos, and the upper-mid/treble emphasis in these cans made them too bright for me with most rock and electronica. Classical and acoustic jazz are where these would fare best, IMO.
Hi Ozric-

it seems you and I share similiar assessments of the Eggo, but ended up not completely liking them for different reasons

In the V6 case, I don't think the bass extension ever brought up the mids. It was like you were standing in front of 2 tiny satellite speakers and 2 15" subwoofers driving them. Something in the mid region was just not there. I am keeping the Eggos, cause I do truly enjoy them for what they are. I surprise myself when i'm at the end of my playlist and I didn't pick apart at my music.. I love them for that fact. They are IMO one of the better portables.. If the Grado SR40s folded and were more portable with less sound leakage, it would be an interesting competitor as well.
post #30 of 97
I think the Sennheiser HD25 (good isolation) and AKG K141S (semi-open) are all too often overlooked as portable cans. Neither requires an amp for high-performance usage out of a portable player, and both are very durable, compact, and jaunty.

Well, perhaps it has something to do with the questionable comfort of these phones. They are both supra-aural, and from my limited experience, I've only been content with supra-aural comfort in the vein of the PX100 (very small and lightweight -> not like a DJ/studio build). There is evidently much dubitable and nothing surefire from where I'm standing, anyway.

The AKG streets for $90 and the Senn for $140. I have not personally tried either, but I frankly don't see why everyone owns the V6 and D66 and not either of these.

Perhaps the K171 and K271 are contenders as well (and both are well-sealed), but I am not sure about driving them straight out of a portable (they are less sensitive than the K141 model).

Edit: I guess the Beyerdynamic DT250-80 is another fine portable choice (without an amp, though you'd probably want an amp if they're going to be your home cans as well, right?).

I like the PX200 because it's a relatively cheap phone that is completely designed for ampless usage, is small, portable, and sealed. Being out and in public, sound quality is probably not the most important feature in a headphone to most people, and why should it be? If you want to use your portable phones in and out of the house, then I understand the Beyer DT250-80 to be an excellent choice (again, an amp for less mobile situations and ampless for when sound quality isn't everything -> how much of a difference does an amp make to these phones, I don't know, and I have not come across the answer, but you have to remember that a modern PDCP has a stripped down, almost incapable amp that is pretty much designed directly for the little earbuds included, as is the bass boost). But, again, you might just want a cheap dedicated portable phone and to spend the rest on your home listening equipment (whether it be a component-based loudspeaker system, integrated bookshelfesque mini, Orpheus etc.).
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