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post #61 of 72
4/9/08 at 11:02pm
I'm thinking about one thing, what is your firmware's version , mine is the 1.00.01???

Edit : Nevermind, I see it's the last one.
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post #62 of 72
4/20/08 at 1:13am
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Originally Posted by Amblin View Post
Sounds plausible. If you put a live lobster in a pot and on the stove, turn it on, the water will slowly get warmer and warmer, all the while, the lobster will adjust to the rising temperature. The same thing will happen with your ears. Agentred indicates that he listens to his Kenwood at very low volumes, so its possible that while the rest of you listen at higher volumes, and your ears "warm up" and become less sensitive to the hiss, his ears do not "warm up" and instead stay sharp and aware of the hiss.
No.

I just let it run for 3-5 minutes. Then I start listening (never past volume 10/30), The hiss disappears completely after 5 minutes, so "desensitizing" does not apply here. And please don't believe that your ears "warm up". I call it "hearing loss".


If you don't hear the hiss either

A) You have have a rare unit
B) You have defective ears (read: you are old/did not preserve your hearing well/born with it)


This thread was started with the hd30gb9 in mind
I have never heard the 60gb9ec so I cannot make any claims about the unit, though I doubt a 60gb harddrive will contribute to the decreasing of the hiss (the 3$ worth of gold just transfers that hiss more clearly into your ears ^_^)
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post #63 of 72
10/24/08 at 2:30pm
BTW, I need to do a bit more listening, but with the MDR-EX700LP headphones, I don't hear any hiss with the HD60GD9EC, but I did with the Westone ES2.
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post #64 of 72
10/25/08 at 8:57am
try headphone with lower sensitivity. then you guys won't hear any hiss..........
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post #65 of 72
11/17/08 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by KromaXamorK View Post
In fact, lot of people who using kenwood HD30GB or HD60GD notice that hiss dissapear, i'm just wondering how it is possible and why.^^
About 10 hours with your HD60GD9 + ATH-CM700, and haven't noticed even a hint of hiss... maybe i just unable to hear it?
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post #66 of 72
11/17/08 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by antonyfirst View Post
The funniest thing is that they can't manage to get rid of the hiss, yet they put more and more expensive price tags on their new models.
For $500, it is not unreasonable to expect clean audio in addition to the excellent audio it promises to deliver. It does not matter how good the lows, mids and highs if excessive amounts of noise that should not be there are added by the player to the audio signal. Most players will hiss, some more than others. I remember seeing a THD plot for the Kenwoods and it was off the roof. And the use of an attenuator is only a work around, not a solution. It forces your player to work harder and drain your batteries quicker and may change the sound characteristics as well. It may also possibly reduce your headroom.
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post #67 of 72
11/17/08 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by penartur View Post
About 10 hours with your HD60GD9 + ATH-CM700, and haven't noticed even a hint of hiss... maybe i just unable to hear it?
It's because my IEM have got a great sensitivity( up to 120dB) either a low impedance.
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post #68 of 72
11/20/08 at 2:39am
do the shure attenuators decrease sound quality?

What about a 75ohm resistor adapter like the ety p to s adapters?
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post #69 of 72
11/20/08 at 4:38am
With my HD30GB9 I've tried the UM1, ER4P, Atrio M5, HD 25, KSC 75, iGrado, and probably some others but I never had a problem with hiss. It might not be dead silent but the hiss is so quiet I'd have to close my eyes and really focus on it.

My avg listening level is around 16-20 and that might be loud compared to others but that's how I enjoy it.
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post #70 of 72
11/20/08 at 11:34am
maybe the hiss is kenwoods secret ingredient, deliberately added in to affect the sound and make it warm and lush, a kind of quasi-dithering

i was going to get one of these kegs but the pacemaker is tempting me more and more with its SNR and other specs
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post #71 of 72
11/20/08 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by fatman711 View Post
do the shure attenuators decrease sound quality?

What about a 75ohm resistor adapter like the ety p to s adapters?
Yes Shure attenuator fixed the problem but it decrease the sound quality due to the volume meter.

Better take a resistor like that ETYMOTIC ER4P TO ER4S RESISTOR ADAPTOR en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 27-nov.-08 04:21:09 Paris)
Plus, you'll can choose the capacitor, a 33ohms is fine.
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post #72 of 72
1/7/09 at 8:50am
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Originally Posted by penartur View Post
About 10 hours with your HD60GD9 + ATH-CM700, and haven't noticed even a hint of hiss... maybe i just unable to hear it?
OK, i was wrong, the hiss is actually there. I, with my hearing, just do not hear it while listening to music: i'm using ATH-CM700 earbuds (not IEMs), so, comfortable volume leve for me is about 10-13 of 40 even while indoors; i can notice hiss only while playing music on <5 of 40, and hiss volume (it do not depends of selected volume level) is about music volume on 1 of 40 and (with supreme ex enabled) is about music volume on 3 of 40. Of course, with IEMs (which are usually used on much lower volumes) or with a good hearing the hiss becames annoying.
Surprisingly, supreme ex increases hiss volume (as i have said, from 1/40 to 3/40) and adds to it some "feel of space", like you're in a big hall and hiss is somewhere there, being reflected by the walls
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