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post #16 of 67
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Originally Posted by vcoheda View Post
get both and sell the one you like the least, or flip a coin.
Ah the Head-Fi way. It is up to your ears and wallet.
post #17 of 67
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Slightly off-topic question, but how the battery lifetime is measured on amps?
Do all manufactures use the same headphones and volume/gain settings when measuring or just connecting some standard dummy load with predefined impedance?
I asked Ray about this for the Pico and he uses actual headphones to get a real world run time. Of course you can calculate the mA draw of the components but different headphones, IEM's and so one draw differently so something like the HD650 will get less time vs a low demand IEM. I know you know this already but I put it out there for some who might have a question about this.
post #18 of 67
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Slightly off-topic question, but how the battery lifetime is measured on amps?
Do all manufactures use the same headphones and volume/gain settings when measuring or just connecting some standard dummy load with predefined impedance?
He said most of his sources and listening habits are portable and therefore my comparing battery life is very relevant.
post #19 of 67
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Originally Posted by Dorito123 View Post
He said most of his sources and listening habits are portable and therefore my comparing battery life is very relevant.
Did I mention anything about relevance? Just curious on measurement procedure and accuracy of provided estimates.
post #20 of 67
Im sorry

Its not off topic if he will be using when on the go more often then not. I don't know how they measure but there is a big difference between 50 and 20.

Reach down and have a Dorito!
post #21 of 67
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Originally Posted by Dorito123 View Post
Isnt the predator supposed to get 50 hrs or battery time as apposed to 20 hrs for the pico?
You do know that power output is generally inversely related to battery life, right? The longer that equivalent batteries run in different amps, typically the lesser output power is in the longer-running amp. But then again, the Predator and the Pico use different batteries. And Justin confirmed somewhere that the Pico has the same output power as the AE-2, which is 500 mW.
post #22 of 67
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Originally Posted by Dash View Post
I have just crossed the 400 hour on my Predator. It truly is a wonderful piece of equipment. I have always owned the low to mid-fi setups previously. The Predator is one of the best amps in the 300-500 price range, home included, that I have owned. I do not believe that you could go wrong with either the Pico or the Predator. It boils down to a matter of flavor. Both have a 30 day return policy. The Predator does need some time to stretch its leg but I feel you get a good idea of the direction its heading by the 250 hour mark. Hope it helps.
You may find this hard to believe, since you like your Predator so much already -- but at 400 hours, compared to 1000+ hours, the Predator sounds a bit noisy, upper-mid emphasized, bass-lean and slightly veiled.

You will be very happily surprised at how much your amp will continue to improve. Well, maybe not so surprised if you've read jamato8's ongoing reports on the developments of his amp.

Cheers.
post #23 of 67
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Originally Posted by Asr View Post
You do know that power output is generally inversely related to battery life, right? The longer that equivalent batteries run in different amps, typically the lesser output power is in the longer-running amp. But then again, the Predator and the Pico use different batteries. And Justin confirmed somewhere that the Pico has the same output power as the AE-2, which is 500 mW.
Yes I do know that.
post #24 of 67
I was in the same situation few months ago. I believe both Pico and Predator are great amp. Both companies provide 30 days return policy. If both amps gave you equal pros and cons, I would get both and listen for yourself. That would be final decision making process. I originally planned to do just that. But, I decided to go with Pico just because I believe in UP-SAMPLING. To me DAC feature of Pico helped me made my decision a little bit easier. I have not regretted my decision so far. I hope this help.
post #25 of 67
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Originally Posted by double07 View Post
I was in the same situation few months ago. I believe both Pico and Predator are great amp. Both companies provide 30 days return policy. If both amps gave you equal pros and cons, I would get both and listen for yourself. That would be final decision making process. I originally planned to do just that. But, I decided to go with Pico just because I believe in UP-SAMPLING. To me DAC feature of Pico helped me made my decision a little bit easier. I have not regretted my decision so far. I hope this help.
Good advice and sound logic.
post #26 of 67
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Originally Posted by double07 View Post
I was in the same situation few months ago. I believe both Pico and Predator are great amp. Both companies provide 30 days return policy.
Just a correction, RSA may offer a 30-day return policy (though I don't see where it's mentioned on the Web site), but HeadAmp has only a 14-day return policy.
post #27 of 67
It's 30 days for the pico.
post #28 of 67
Oh indeed, I guess there's a single-product exception to his general return policy then.
post #29 of 67
Sure, the other amps he builds are known entities at this point and are built to order.
post #30 of 67
looks like pico is more popular than predator is. or at least the pre-order amount on the pico thread is just unbelievable.
any reason why pico is in more demand? is it because of pico's up-sampling? or could it be just one of those bandwagon issues?
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