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post #16 of 37
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
Don't let grawk get you down, he's a grouch and an elitist jam band fan.
Well, "elitist jam band fan" is what I'm sort of aspiring to myself ... no use being a "listen to any old rubbish" jam band fan ...
post #17 of 37

Jam Bands.

I believe that the title comes from the fact that most of these bands will go from song to song without ever stopping. They will play the first half of a song, jam into another song and then go back and finish the first. If you think about 4 or 5 songs in this format, well you get the idea. The Dead did this in spades through most of their career.
Contrary to an earlier post I think that Widespread Panic are the best example of this kind of band. They play recognisable songs as well as covers and are excellent instrumentally.
I have not found much eletism amongst fans. Most of the followers of Jam Bands seem to like a lot of other music and other Jam Bands.

Just a view.
"If you get confused listen to the music play".
post #18 of 37
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Most of the followers of Jam Bands seem to like a lot of other music and other Jam Bands.
I think that to like jam band music you pretty much have to like a broad range of music, but it certainly isn't my experience that followers of a jam band like other jam bands: in the short time that I've been looking into this I've found that Disco Biscuit fans hate Umphrey's McGee and everyone seems to hate moe. Just as I hoped, however, Head-Fi doesn't seem to have to many of those, er, "fans".
post #19 of 37
I have a good reason to hate phish and moe., but that doesn't change that they did make good music at various points in the past
post #20 of 37
Widespread Panic is one I like. I'd put the Dave Matthews Band in the jam band category. The String Cheese Incident is pretty jam band, but I'm not a fan.
post #21 of 37
I put early DMB in jam band, now they're pure pop. Unless they've gone back again
post #22 of 37
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I put early DMB in jam band, now they're pure pop. Unless they've gone back again
I haven't listened to them in awhile, but I liked them back in the day. I saw them once in '96 and some time (a year or two?) after. Good show. Irritating audience (goes with jam band territory). I have no idea what they've been up to the past few years.
post #23 of 37
I'm not suggesting this as a starting point, but if you ever get around to it, you might like Les Sables Magiques by Tricky Woo. Harder-edged bluesy pysch-rock, but a good long player.
post #24 of 37
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I'm not suggesting this as a starting point, but if you ever get around to it, you might like Les Sables Magiques by Tricky Woo. Harder-edged bluesy pysch-rock, but a good long player.
Had a look at TW on YouTube, but it wasn't what I was looking for: seems more like Lenny Kravitz or Wolfmother or something: there's not much up there, so maybe the vids weren't representative (?)
post #25 of 37
more from jazz angle, but Medeski Martin & Wood, Miles Davis electric, and Ginger Baker Trio.

I'm a big Grateful Dead fan, especially when they stretch out and play extended instrumentals, and that's probably why I like the above. You get the same eye-squinting, grinning, foot-tapping, head-bobbing effect (without...uh...imbibing anything).

MMW live is awesome (as typical with jam bands), would haved killed to see Miles live in any phase (but he was way before my time), not sure if GBT is still around (actually don't know much about them, accept the two CDs I have are killer and in heavy rotation). Saw Dead only once live at Madison Square Garden, I was probably too young and that concert and scene scared the crap out me, but later on I've grown to be a big fan.
post #26 of 37
Phil Lesh and Friends can embody all that's good with jam bands. Unfortunately, because Phil believes in directionless jamming, it can also embody all that's wrong with jam bands. The version of the band that was phil/warren/jimmy/rob/molo was spectacular. They played together long enough to anticipate moves, and were all REALLY talented. The version with Ryan Adams was great too, but not as improvisational.

You just have to wince and bear it when phil sings
post #27 of 37
If you want to get into Phish I would suggest starting with their studio work such as Billy Breaths or Junta. Then if you like their style check out A live One or some of their numerous other live releases.

I also found the Grateful Dead easier to take on studio albums first, The Very Best of the Grateful Dead on HDCD is good. Then move on to the live stuff.

Little Feat is another jam band I've been enjoying recently, Dixie Chicken is a great album. I would also recommend String Cheese Incident and Leftover Salmon.
post #28 of 37
I liked earlier Phish and went to some shows. They were great then. Also like the GD. Anway, not sure if they qualify as jam band but one of my fave bands these days is My Morning Jacket. You need to check this band out. They rock live!
post #29 of 37
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Had a look at TW on YouTube, but it wasn't what I was looking for: seems more like Lenny Kravitz or Wolfmother or something: there's not much up there, so maybe the vids weren't representative (?)
Honestly, Les Sables Magiques isn't representative of the band at all. Most of their work has been heavy, fast garage, with most tunes clocking in around 2.5 minutes. The album is a curiosity amongst their discography.

That said, even this album shouldn't be considered a "jam band" effort, but might satisfy otherwise. Most of the tracks are over 5 minutes long, and have a very psychedelic, bluesy vibe to them. But there's a reason I positioned it as "you may like", as opposed to recommending it outright, especially given the context of the thread.
post #30 of 37
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more from jazz angle, but Medeski Martin & Wood, Miles Davis electric, and Ginger Baker Trio.
I have Miles electric (well, Bitches Brew and Live/Evil anyway) and they're not massively to my taste. I've considered MMW from the perspective of being a big Zorn fan, so maybe I should move them further up the "must listen" list.

Ansel: thanks for the recommendations, but - as I said earlier in the thread - no help needed on The Grateful Dead (I have most of it) or on Phish (I have much of it on order). Junta and Billy Breathes are actually the first two that I ordered (apart from Hampton Comes Alive) so you and I are on the same page there.

In fact, it's more due to fear that there's other stuff out there that I would like as much as that (and UM) that I started this thread, so keep the recommendations coming, please ... a whole lot of the names mentioned already are completely new to me.

[Makes note to self to check out My Morning Jacket.]
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