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post #16 of 26
iPhone sounds pretty decent for a phone. But in terms of being a digital audio player, no. It has a sub-par sound quality often cutting the lowest frequency and the highest frequency and boosting 16kHz and 60Hz area. iTouch is just a tad better. If anything sound quality that best on Apples line up, that will be the iPod Classic (better with iMod).
post #17 of 26
Sorry, let me be more helpful here.
I own an iphone and sound from headphone jack is not good.

I am comparing it to my U3 and T39 when using e3c and pk1.

1) Sound stage is the worst one.
2) Sound detail is the worst one.
3) Power output is the worst one. When I use my PK1 with iphone, I hear music.....then slient....then music....then slient.....where music should be continously. Also, when I increase the volume to around 60% or above, sound is distorted.

The good thing for iphone is the docking station and the sound from line out is pretty good. If you going to use alot line out, then it is a good choice. But I found the docking station is annoying. I have a sillicon case for the iphone for protection. The iphone with sillicon case just cannot fit into the docking station. Every time I need to take the sillicon case out in order to put the docking.

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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post
ive not heard the iphone so my opinion are rubbish. but, certainly, saying sound is rubbish and leaving it at that is not helpful at all.

another one for the ignore list? wait, is it the same person

if the iphone and touch use the same hardware, it indeed sounds good. however, my opinion is really related only to the itouch. it is damn good especially when you consider what is in it.
post #18 of 26

I currently have an iPhone 3G 8GB and an iPhone 4. Directly comparing the 2 phones one thing is obvious, the volume on the 3g is slightly higher than the 4G. I have read that this depends on the country the iphone was purchased. The 3G comes from Norway and the 4G comes from France. I have no clue why some countries would have their iphones sound louder/quieter. The quality is very similar, and surely not noticeable by me - I like to consider myself a sound loving guy rather than an audiophile. I have 2 decent headphones and I believe they are pretty sufficient to realize the differences with : a pair of Brainwavz ProAlpha ( ViSang R02 ) IEM and a pair of AKG K181 DJ.

 

Comparing the iPhones to other players, the difference is also noticeable better on the iphones. I have compared it to some Samsung/Sony mp3players and some generic players. iPhone also beats my PC audio card : a Hercules Fortissimo IV ( via Envy 24HT ). Also I have compared to a regular Galaxy S and some other Android and Nokia Phones. The differences are quite OBVIOUS : iphone tops them all by quite a big margin. I have never compared it to some high-end portable players. The headphones used for comparing were my Brainwavz.

 

Also, one this is worth mentioning, I drive an Audi A4 B6 that has BOSE sound system factory fitted. The sound system is very nice quality wise , with a total of 10 speakers and after hearing some other OEM high-end sound systems on other car brands, such as OPEL and Mercedes, I have to admit BOSE is one of the best factory installed sound systems. I haven't heard the new Audi's Bang of Olufsen line of cars but at what price that comes with, it should sound a lot better than my BOSE. The car's cd-player will not play mp3s so I had to fit a DMC 3rd party mp3 player that reads mp3s from USB sources and SD Cards. This player connects to the car's internal sound system and is "seen" by the car as an OEM CD-Changer so all controls work, even the ones on the steering wheel which is pretty cool.

 

Anyway getting back to the iphone, I made a little test : took some very good quality recorded mp3s ( @320 kbps ) and burned 1 Audio CD with them, also fitted them on a USB Stick for the car's player and synced them to my iPhone. The car's DMC player has a 3.5mm AUX Line-IN so I was able to wire up my iPhone to the car via a 3.5mm -> 3.5mm regular wire. Now I was able to hear the same songs, coming from the same mp3 file on 3 different sources : car's CD-Player, the DMC player ( via USB ) and the iPhone. The results were quite spectacular : the DMC player had the lowest quality, followed buy the car's own CD-Player ( I don't know if it's made by BOSE or not ) but the iphone had the BEST quality - everything was cleaner, crisper and all the frequencies were very well separated.

 

Now I find myself in the situation of listening ONLY to the iPhone which involves me having the 3.5 wire hanging around the dash and everything :)

 

Bottom line : the iPhone could be very well beaten by some high-end players ( I would be very curious to see how good could other stuff sound ) but it sure as hell blows to pieces any regular players and sound sources and considering the price and that it comes packed with a phone, a GPS reciever, a great screen, awesome CPU/GPU for games, wi-fi ( class N on the 4G ) - I find it to be the deal of the century.

 

I have no idea how come some people complain about the iPhone's SQ. It might be different from one to another, but my 2 copies sound incredible and VISIBLY better than anything else I had compared them with.


Edited by C0rnholio - 5/4/11 at 8:37am
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by C0rnholio View Post

I currently have an iPhone 3G 8GB and an iPhone 4. Directly comparing the 2 phones one thing is obvious, the volume on the 3g is slightly higher than the 4G. I have read that this depends on the country the iphone was purchased. The 3G comes from Norway and the 4G comes from France. I have no clue why some countries would have their iphones sound louder/quieter. The quality is very similar, and surely not noticeable by me - I like to consider myself a sound loving guy rather than an audiophile. I have 2 decent headphones and I believe they are pretty sufficient to realize the differences with : a pair of Brainwavz ProAlpha ( ViSang R02 ) IEM and a pair of AKG K181 DJ.

 

Comparing the iPhones to other players, the difference is also noticeable better on the iphones. I have compared it to some Samsung/Sony mp3players and some generic players. iPhone also beats my PC audio card : a Hercules Fortissimo IV ( via Envy 24HT ). Also I have compared to a regular Galaxy S and some other Android and Nokia Phones. The differences are quite OBVIOUS : iphone tops them all by quite a big margin. I have never compared it to some high-end portable players. The headphones used for comparing were my Brainwavz.

 

Also, one this is worth mentioning, I drive an Audi A4 B6 that has BOSE sound system factory fitted. The sound system is very nice quality wise , with a total of 10 speakers and after hearing some other OEM high-end sound systems on other car brands, such as OPEL and Mercedes, I have to admit BOSE is one of the best factory installed sound systems. I haven't heard the new Audi's Bang of Olufsen line of cars but at what price that comes with, it should sound a lot better than my BOSE. The car's cd-player will not play mp3s so I had to fit a DMC 3rd party mp3 player that reads mp3s from USB sources and SD Cards. This player connects to the car's internal sound system and is "seen" by the car as an OEM CD-Changer so all controls work, even the ones on the steering wheel which is pretty cool.

 

Anyway getting back to the iphone, I made a little test : took some very good quality recorded mp3s ( @320 kbps ) and burned 1 Audio CD with them, also fitted them on a USB Stick for the car's player and synced them to my iPhone. The car's DMC player has a 3.5mm AUX Line-IN so I was able to wire up my iPhone to the car via a 3.5mm -> 3.5mm regular wire. Now I was able to hear the same songs, coming from the same mp3 file on 3 different sources : car's CD-Player, the DMC player ( via USB ) and the iPhone. The results were quite spectacular : the DMC player had the lowest quality, followed buy the car's own CD-Player ( I don't know if it's made by BOSE or not ) but the iphone had the BEST quality - everything was cleaner, crisper and all the frequencies were very well separated.

 

Now I find myself in the situation of listening ONLY to the iPhone which involves me having the 3.5 wire hanging around the dash and everything :)

 

Bottom line : the iPhone could be very well beaten by some high-end players ( I would be very curious to see how good could other stuff sound ) but it sure as hell blows to pieces any regular players and sound sources and considering the price and that it comes packed with a phone, a GPS reciever, a great screen, awesome CPU/GPU for games, wi-fi ( class N on the 4G ) - I find it to be the deal of the century.

 

I have no idea how come some people complain about the iPhone's SQ. It might be different from one to another, but my 2 copies sound incredible and VISIBLY better than anything else I had compared them with.



Interesting that your iPhone 4 came from France and has the highest volume.  Last time I checked, France is the country that limits the volume of DAPs, including iPhones and iPods.

 

And as an aside, my dad got a new Mazda MX-5 not too long ago that came with a Bose speaker system, and it honestly sounds kind of awful. :P  I've never heard a truly high-end speaker system in a car before, but this one sound muddy and veiled.  Not very good at all, if you ask me.

post #20 of 26

I said the iphone 4 was from France, and that has the volume slightly lower than the Norwegian 3G :) What the hell is up with this volume being different depending on the country thing ???

 

Regarding the Bose sound system, I don't know what to say about the MX-5 ... maybe it's a lower system than the one on the Audi's. As I said, I have 10 Bose speakers: 2 on each door and one central near the windshield and one woofer in the back right under my back windshield. All speakers are fairly different from a regular Audi Concert speaker system as I have a friend with an identical car but with stock sound.

With this combination of iphone + Bose amp + Bose speakers - the results are nothing short of spectacular. The car's Cd-player is simply not throwing this system the quality it deserves. I'm quite curious if the Cd-Player is also produced by Bose although I doubt it as it looks 100% identical to the one on the stock sound system. It now feels like you're on a concert hall, the bass is punchy and warm not just a bunch of low end rubbish like what you get from usual subwoofers people fit in their trunks. The voice is simply unbelievable, it's not just because it's my OWN car, but I have a lot of friends with some knowledge in audio quality and they were all pretty impressed.

 

PS. the tunes I currently play and test audio equipment with are Katie Melua's first 3 albums + "Florence Rawlings -  A Fool In Love  (2009)" some other Jazz stuff - all of them on the best quality I could find. On a side note - I find Katie Melua's albums to have an outstanding SQ ( I only use 320kbps mp3s and FLACs where possible ).


Edited by C0rnholio - 5/4/11 at 2:29pm
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by C0rnholio View Post

I said the iphone 4 was from France, and that has the volume slightly lower than the Norwegian 3G :) What the hell is up with this volume being different depending on the country thing ???

 

Regarding the Bose sound system, I don't know what to say about the MX-5 ... maybe it's a lower system than the one on the Audi's. As I said, I have 10 Bose speakers: 2 on each door and one central near the windshield and one woofer in the back right under my back windshield. All speakers are fairly different from a regular Audi Concert speaker system as I have a friend with an identical car but with stock sound.

With this combination of iphone + Bose amp + Bose speakers - the results are nothing short of spectacular. The car's Cd-player is simply not throwing this system the quality it deserves. I'm quite curious if the Cd-Player is also produced by Bose although I doubt it as it looks 100% identical to the one on the stock sound system. It now feels like you're on a concert hall, the bass is punchy and warm not just a bunch of low end rubbish like what you get from usual subwooferT people fit in their trunks. The voice is simply unbelievable, it's not just because it's my OWN car, but I have a lot of friends with some knowledge in audio quality and they were all pretty impressed.

 

PS. the tunes I currently play and test audio equipment with are Katie Melua's first 3 albums + "Florence Rawlings -  A Fool In Love  (2009)" some other Jazz stuff - all of them on the best quality I could find. On a side note - I find Katie Melua's albums to have an outstanding SQ ( I only use 320kbps mp3s and FLACs where possible ).



I think that to squeeze the best possible sound quality out of the iPhone you should get a LOD to connect to the car.  It'll bypass the internal amp and should in theory make it sound better by only using the amp in the car.

 

Also, the reason why France is restricting volume is because they're playing Big Brother on us.  More and more these days people are turning their devices up way too loud and wrecking their hearing.  Instead of simply informing the public with public awareness campaigns on it, they've decided instead that it's better to put restrictions on how loud MP3 players can get.  While it may in theory be a good thing to do, to those who have headphones that need the extra juice it's really annoying.  The consumer should be the one who can choose what to do with their gear - they own it, not the government.  If they want to be short-sighted and ruin their hearing, then so be it - it's their choice.  At least if the government tries to tell them not to they could say they warned them.

post #22 of 26

The thing with loudness control seems idiotic to say the least. I have 2 pair of headphones : the Brainwavz Proalpha IEMs and a pair of AKG K181. The Brainwavz are very easy to drive, and I simply can't listen to them on the 3G with the volume higher than 70-75% ( from what I can tell on that iPhone scale ) but the AKGs need a lot more juice, I always feel there is enough volume when I play them at full blast on the 3G. So when I test them one the iPhone 4, it feels that they could use a bit more juice. So first of all, it all comes down to what headphones people use, as some need more volume ( amplification ) than others.

 

I can't believe there are cigarettes and alcohol being sold at every general store, knowing FOR SURE how bad they do to people's body and mind health, but they will impose a volume limit on portable players to "protect" them in the same time. It's hilarious :))

post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by C0rnholio View Post

The thing with loudness control seems idiotic to say the least. I have 2 pair of headphones : the Brainwavz Proalpha IEMs and a pair of AKG K181. The Brainwavz are very easy to drive, and I simply can't listen to them on the 3G with the volume higher than 70-75% ( from what I can tell on that iPhone scale ) but the AKGs need a lot more juice, I always feel there is enough volume when I play them at full blast on the 3G. So when I test them one the iPhone 4, it feels that they could use a bit more juice. So first of all, it all comes down to what headphones people use, as some need more volume ( amplification ) than others.

 

I can't believe there are cigarettes and alcohol being sold at every general store, knowing FOR SURE how bad they do to people's body and mind health, but they will impose a volume limit on portable players to "protect" them in the same time. It's hilarious :))



Well, I guess it's because they can do it without people really noticing.  They've tried to ban alcohol in the past (the prohibition in the united states) and that didn't go over too well.  Hopefully this isn't a trend that'll catch on internationally much though...I honestly think it's a pretty bad idea.  After all, even with the volume limit some headphones are so sensitive people would still be able to blow their ears out with them turned all the way up.  Though really, I don't think the iphone has enough power to do that exactly, but it'd definitely cause hearing damage.

 

Good news though, is that I think you can raise the volume limit with a jailbroken app if you really feel you need the extra volume.  But it could cause some distortion if you push the iphone higher than it's designed to go.

post #24 of 26

Of the default EQ settings for the iPhone, which would be best to select when listening through CK10's?

post #25 of 26

I usually go for the Electronic setting for both the car's system and my headphones. I usually like a bit of a U shaped spectrum kinda sound and although this Electronic does cut a bit too much on the mids and boosts the highs, it does sound the best out of the EQ settings in my opinion as I can work on the sound on my car's amp too. The Rock setting drops the mids even more. The NONE setting also isn't bad when you're going for the natural and neutral sound although this time I find the mids a bit overwhelming for my taste.


Edited by C0rnholio - 5/8/11 at 2:53pm
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by Vinman View Post

I've had my iPhone 8GB since July, and I love it! IMO, the sound quality is as important as the convenience of having a converged device - and the quality is THAT good.

As far as the headphone jack, most male jacks can be trimmed down easily to fit. The exceptions (that I'm aware of) are jacks with metal jackets and the Sony MDR-EX91. A good iem for the money, but if you trim away the jacket far enough to insert, the plug will pull away easily (sliding the jacket up the cord) leaving only the very thin wires and microscopic solder joints to handle the forces of bending, twisting, and pulling.

I'd recommend one of the better iPhone compatible models with a mic/switch built in (I'm partial to the UE super.fi 4vi).

 

I may be a little late with this commentary but maybe these two comments could be helpful.

 

1.  As for iPhone sound, I was pleased to discover just yesterday that there can be significant differences in SQ between iDevices.  I was listening to my Ipod Classic 120 through a Line-out-Dock to my RSA amp and then on to AKG 702s (and Super.Fi 5EBs) when it ran out of battery.  I swapped in my iPhone 3GS while I recharged the Classic and was shocked at how much better it sounded with the same files.  As I was using an external amp, it must have been the DAC, everything else was the same.  It was much fuller sounding, with better 3D presentation of the individual instruments and a better sense of space and "air," and the highs were much more natural sounding.

 

2.  If you are a UE fan, stick with the old pro series (SuperFi 3, 5, 5EB, & TripleFi 10).  They are built WAY better than he newer stuff and also sound significantly better.  I have owned (several pairs of) the 4vi and the 5vi and while they sound decent, they can't approach the SQ of my 5, 5EB, or 10, and they break ALL THE TIME, usually at the cables.  The cables on the old pro series are replaceable, which also means that you can order the replacement cables with the mic (on the UE website) for $20 and have the phone functionality as well.   

 

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