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post #31 of 411
Didn't review a Power 3, reviewed products way up the line with different build. (If you have $1500 to spend taking a Nite apart, I invite you to do so.)

I will comment now: Power 3 performs better than Iron Lung or Volex (two stock, factory made, off-the-shelf cables with stock wire inside that wouldn't impress you either with their build), better than others I reviewed, would have shown up near the middle of the pile.

Until you've done all the listening I have, your comment is just ignorance. No sting at all.
post #32 of 411
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Hurts gettin' nailed on your own BS don't it, Mr. Xenu?
Ummm, what bs?
post #33 of 411
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Did you ever see the South Park where they were protesting Wal-Mart for its evil ways, so they blow it up? And the whole town starts buying its stuff from the local mom & pop drugstore that was in danger of going out of business. Then we have a flash-forward where the small mom & pop store becomes the huge mega-chain and they have to blow it up all over again. LOL.
They did not, however, argue that wal-mart was good. Rather wal-mart sucks, and on top of that people are generally stupid.
post #34 of 411
I think we should boycott the boycotters, until they can provide use with scientific evidence as to why we shouldn't
post #35 of 411
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I think we should boycott the boycotters, until they can provide use with scientific evidence as to why we shouldn't
That argument goes both ways...Provide me with some empirical evidence as to any audiophile cable that performs better than a low-cost cable, such as one from Radio Shack, Monoprice, Blue Jeans Cable, etc.
post #36 of 411
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That argument goes both ways...Provide me with some empirical evidence as to any audiophile cable that performs better than a low-cost cable, such as one from Radio Shack, Monoprice, Blue Jeans Cable, etc.
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Yes, because Fitz, Monoprice, and Blue Jeans Cable all claim to make cables that sound so much better than anything else and charge $30,000 for them. Those companies and VD are so similar, aren't they?

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Let's see here, BJC et al. aren't trying to "swindle" anyone (they don't make false claims), and I do not work for them, whereas Acoustic Chef works for VD, and VD does make false claims.

See the difference?

I don't have a "sound so much better" meter, if you could make arrangement for me to borrow the one that you refer to in the above quote, I will give it a shot
post #37 of 411
Look, this seems a circular argument to me. Those who don't believe cables make a difference are, I expect, already boycotting cable companies. Those who do believe are not. It's a circular argument with no resolution point.

Which brings me to my reminder to please keep things civil when you discuss these issues. Thanks...
post #38 of 411
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Yes, because Fitz, Monoprice, and Blue Jeans Cable all claim to make cables that sound so much better than anything else and charge $30,000 for them. Those companies and VD are so similar, aren't they?

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Let's see here, BJC et al. aren't trying to "swindle" anyone (they don't make false claims), and I do not work for them, whereas Acoustic Chef works for VD, and VD does make false claims.

See the difference?

I don't have a "sound so much better" meter, if you could make arrangement for me to borrow the one that you refer to in the above quote, I will give it a shot
You don't visit these cable boards much do you? Overlord is a cable skeptic one of the biggest. he was being sarcastic when he said they claim to have the best and are all $30k.
post #39 of 411
The cable proponents are missing the point. Telling people there is a vast difference in a $150 cable that is just $0.24/foot Home Depot wire inside a garden hose looks and smells like a scam. Instead of listening to you go on about the "sound" will not convince anyone. They are instead wondering if you have any credibility at all. It is hard to imagine why anyone would defend ordinary house wire in a hose, short of a direct financial interest.

The only free gear I've received were two PCBs, face and endplates from Dr. Meier for the Cross-I when he did the giveaway a couple years ago. I participated in the group buy for cases and built them myself. Other than that, I have not received cash, products, discounts, special treatment, or any form of compensation from any manufacturer or member of the trade. I would not hesitate to swear that under oath.

Who else is willing to come clean about financial and other compensation received? I'll take people at their word, but it's time to call out the elephant in the room. People come here for honest advice from enthusiasts. They do not want, nor do they expect, marketing hiding behind our words. It is not fair and it is not right.
post #40 of 411
I have never received any compensation, monetary or otherwise, from a MOT. The only free thing I have ever gotten is the original carrying bag for my Headfive from a member who realized he had forgot to include in in the original purchase.
post #41 of 411
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It is hard to imagine why anyone would defend ordinary house wire in a hose, short of a direct financial interest.
why don't you just say which people you are referring to. obviously, you have some in mind.
post #42 of 411
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99% of them, at least. I've been thinking about this movement for awhile, but over the past couple of months, it's been even more unsettling, in both terms of pricing and the revelations that show what's inside the cables.

Perhaps DIY Head-Fi members can set up small businesses; I saw that they can build great quality cables and iPod docks as well. Of course, I know most, if not all, rather not get into the business side of things, and I don't blame them. I'm simply speaking my mind right now; throwing out possibilities and ideas.

But I feel that for awhile none of us should "upgrade" our cables, and just simply go to Radio Shack for our cable needs. Remember the results from that DBT test that compared silver to copper to a Radio Shack cable?

So yes, thanks for hearing me out. What say you?

You are right on my page! I am in the middle of a career change. Fell in love in Asia and am only back in Canada for less than a year. Do to the lower overhead of doing business in Thailand I am seriously considering starting my own boutique audio brand of components, speakers, and cables for poor and frugal people. Of course, skipping the middleman thanks to the interweb thingy would ensure quality component made with boutique parts where needed at prices that are reasonable. Thanks to the box thing internet that somehow teleports my thoughts and products to the consumer(LOL) I would still make the same profit as if I sold to a middle man and he gouged you! I am, at the moment, trying to convince an EE friend and a few computer geek friends of mine to move over with me to start this and a couple other companies. I won't even go into why it is better living there than in Canada, but it is!

A line of simplified tube preamps, class D amps, open baffle, dynamic, TR speakers, a DAC, and of course, headamps would mean not too many choices, but good ones at good prices! If Channel Islands can box up a couple of Hypex UcD amp modules and sell them for $2300, why can't I do it for a lot less and still sleep at night? Most $500 to $2000 speakers use crap drivers, so why not use good ones and charge the same. Maybe I can talk to some DIY PCB makers and use their already existing great designs for DACs and preamps, build them and case them beautifully and only for a reasonable mark up.

I was considering this lightly until I saw this and flew off! You may have seen my post for my planned BOX'O'GOODIES.


nova physics memory player


This thing is a $15000 version that only does one thing better(I foresee it this way) and does a lot less in every other department! Keeping it small and personal and without greed should make for a loyal following, just the way I like to do business. With my background in high end lacquer on wood finishing things would look great!
post #43 of 411
For what its worth, StevenKelby = my hookup. He's amazing with the cables and iMod accessories.
post #44 of 411
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Who else is willing to come clean about financial and other compensation received? I'll take people at their word, but it's time to call out the elephant in the room. People come here for honest advice from enthusiasts. They do not want, nor do they expect, marketing hiding behind our words. It is not fair and it is not right.
I haven't received squat from any MOT (or anyone period) that I didn't have to pay full price for. That being said, I am open to bribes.
post #45 of 411
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You don't visit these cable boards much do you? Overlord is a cable skeptic one of the biggest. he was being sarcastic when he said they claim to have the best and are all $30k.
Thanks, without you pointing this out I would have never known:

Sorry if my return point didn't seem sarcastic enough, will try to do better next time
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