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post #16 of 411
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Originally Posted by jgonino View Post
I think he means a boycott of other companies. I also personally think ALO and Apuresound deserve out business.
Do you mean "our business" or "out of business" with your note above? Freudian slip maybe?

I am keeping my cables....I know what I hear. I don't consider myself as having the most resolving or demanding ear but when I do hear something I can appreciate the differences.
post #17 of 411
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule View Post
99% of them, at least. I've been thinking about this movement for awhile, but over the past couple of months, it's been even more unsettling, in both terms of pricing and the revelations that show what's inside the cables.

Perhaps DIY Head-Fi members can set up small businesses; I saw that they can build great quality cables and iPod docks as well. Of course, I know most, if not all, rather not get into the business side of things, and I don't blame them. I'm simply speaking my mind right now; throwing out possibilities and ideas.

But I feel that for awhile none of us should "upgrade" our cables, and just simply go to Radio Shack for our cable needs. Remember the results from that DBT test that compared silver to copper to a Radio Shack cable?

So yes, thanks for hearing me out. What say you?
Am I to suppose that this is in response to a certain cable and a certain cat?
post #18 of 411
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Originally Posted by hughwi View Post
Classic, but so true, the only way you can really know what you are getting is to either be there when it is made, make it yourself or hack an existing one up!

On a slightly different note, for those of you in the UK looking for a reasonably priced DIY'er, look up mark grant, he makes high quality gear at prices that are not $150 for garden hose...
It could be garden hose, or it could be any other synthetic rubber hose or high pressure air hose which are actually used by a lot of power cables to protect the internal wires. What else would you have protecting them?

About the DBT, lots of people can't IDENTIFY what a cable is, but they can PREFER one to another and that's what makes DBT a completely faulty way of testing thing. Sure, I don't know if I'm listening to a certain equipment, but I can tell the difference between them. I'm pretty sure I can't identify which I'm listening to by changing it a few times, but I can say if it was changed or not which means there was a difference. It's all about what you prefer, not if whether you can identify what it is.
post #19 of 411
Am glad I found this thread... the other one had slowed down and I was getting bored!

Anyway, back to the idea proposed by TheMarchingMule: I could boycott the cable companies, but it's a bit difficult when I already DIY my own analogue and digit IC's! I guess an alternative would be to offer quality DIY cables at realistic prices, but yeah, I wouldn't want to make a business of it!

Edit: I haven't done power cables yet... but then they've never been on my radar as an upgrade my system needs. My cable expectations are realistic, and I spend my money accordingly.
post #20 of 411
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Originally Posted by Assorted View Post
I can't speak of the $10K cable manufacturers, but recable/cable companies like APureSound has always made excellent products and services for me, and I think their reasonable prices are well worth paying for. I would not support this boycott.
X2. There are both good quality and poorer quality DIYers and manufacturers out there for practically everything audio.

There is an onus on the purchaser to make their own decision based on their own preferences (including SQ preferences) and their own budget. And, to me at least, much depends on overall equipment synergy - I will run my Apuresound ICs on my SS amps but not on my tube amps, where I choose silver ICs (Moon Audio and Home Grown Audio).

But I can see where the suggestion is coming from - I've listened to a fair range of portable mini-2-minis and I think with that level of equipment the differences, although noticeable, are not nearly so different (yet the prices can be quite different ).
post #21 of 411
Could we form a list of sellers who we feel are selling good product? So as to avoid the garden hose salesmen in the future.
post #22 of 411
Man, I hate cats, look at all the trouble they cause.
post #23 of 411
I prefer Nate Jeans Cables.
post #24 of 411
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Originally Posted by Dorito123 View Post
Could we form a list of sellers who we feel are selling good product? So as to avoid the garden hose salesmen in the future.
Blue Jeans Cable and Fitz's cables are the two I have experienced, both have amazing build quality. Fitz's also look very, very cool/nice.
post #25 of 411
Thank you Overlord.
post #26 of 411
I love it.

"Let's boycott all snake-oil cable companies and their fake products that don't make a difference."*














*Erm, except for ALO, Blue Jeans Cable and other brands I can afford. Those aren't snake-oil, they work. But all *other* cables, now those are bunk.

Yes, let's call on the DIY community to start their own cable businesses and stop selling snake-oil. (Except that's how all these other cable companies you are complaining about started-- a guy in his basement with some ideas and some cables).

Did you ever see the South Park where they were protesting Wal-Mart for its evil ways, so they blow it up? And the whole town starts buying its stuff from the local mom & pop drugstore that was in danger of going out of business. Then we have a flash-forward where the small mom & pop store becomes the huge mega-chain and they have to blow it up all over again. LOL.
post #27 of 411
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Originally Posted by markl View Post
I love it.

"Let's boycott all snake-oil cable companies and their fake products that don't make a difference."*














*Erm, except for ALO, Blue Jeans Cable and other brands I can afford. Those aren't snake-oil, they work. But all *other* cables, now those are bunk.

Yes, let's call on the DIY community to start their own cable businesses and stop selling snake-oil. (Except that's how all these other cable companies you are complaining about started-- aguy in his basement with some ideas and some cables).

Did you ever see the South Park where they were protesting Wal-Mart for its evil ways, so they blow it up? And the whole town starts buying its stuff from the local mom & pop drugstore that was in danger of going out of business. Then we have a flash-forward where the small mom & pop store becomes the huge mega-chain and they have to blow it up all over again. LOL.
I personally think ALO, Qables, and other audiophile cable companies have complete ******** products that are marked way up.

Since when have BJC or Monoprice advertised themselves as audiophile cable companies, or charged ostentatious prices for solid gold/spc/whatever cables?

And what in the hell does your SP example have to do with anything here? BJC and Monprice are large companies, and yet they don't spit out ******** products.
post #28 of 411
Hurts gettin' nailed on your own BS don't it, Mr. Xenu?
post #29 of 411
I bet that must have been your reaction when you saw that cat tear up that nice Virtual Dynamics cable...and your "powercord" review...

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Originally Posted by markl View Post
Hurts gettin' nailed on your own BS don't it, Mr. Xenu?
post #30 of 411
i agree with markl.

if you really want to boycott cables, then never buy any - i mean any. saying i'm only going to buy this or that brand b/c they are well made and "affordable" are both relative terms. if you really mean what you say, just use stock powercords that come with most/some components and red and white RCAs. if they really do not make *any* difference than those should be more than adequate.
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