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post #166 of 772
2/5/08 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 View Post
That was internet sarcasm dave.
Funny how someone can use a false "sarcastic" claim to show how false an actual false claim is.

PS did you ever get your ayre disk? If so, notice anything?
post #167 of 772
2/5/08 at 4:46pm
Acoustic Chef, there is a way to save face and get new customers, even. Why not apply for UL certification? Thousands of companies do every year with thousands of new products. Why not have Virtual Dynamics stand apart from the rest of the crowd and get UL approval? Be the first. Just applying would earn you a lot of respect.

Second, why don't you show us what is in the rest of the VD cables? You dared us to buy one and cut it open; I think the factory should show us instead. Further, show us your test gear and explain how you test your products. You only have credibility to gain. That would help business, not hurt it.
post #168 of 772
2/5/08 at 5:00pm
For Import into Europe, an UL or equivalent certification is required. I am not sure about US. I took a quick look at my PC power cord, it has the UL mark on it.

One thing I do know for sure for in the wall installation of power line, you'll need UL certification. And insurance companies also require UL certification.
post #169 of 772
2/5/08 at 5:00pm
No one wants to tear up a $1500 cable. That's what VD is counting on. If he actually showed what goes into those $1500 cables, no one would buy his cables anymore.

This is the quandary VD has gotten itself into.


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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post
Second, why don't you show us what is in the rest of the VD cables? You dared us to buy one and cut it open; I think the factory should show us instead. Further, show us your test gear and explain how you test your products. You only have credibility to gain. That would help business, not hurt it.
post #170 of 772
2/5/08 at 5:19pm
He could just show us him building his higher end cables so he/us would be saving money.

I work customer support for a large cellular phone company and would NEVER talk to potential customers like this. If they don't like our services I don't talk to them in a negative tone or anything.

I got to admit though, looks like a nice DIY cable!

HMM, maybe I should just get some techflex and some water line and cover my existing UL approved power cable for my computer and drop some sawdust (better for isolating those vibrations and heat from reaching the cable...) in there.

BONUS!!! It is now a woody cable!!! So warm sounding!!!!
post #171 of 772
2/5/08 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by 883dave View Post
What do they use to judge the claim " to make cables that sound so much better than anything else"

Could you please provide the model number of your "sound better" meter
I know it was meant as sarcasm but I figured I would try to answer anyway...

Monoprice don't actually claim to be better then anyone, there just made like higher end cables and sell for around the same price as the pack-in throwaways ($2.37 for a 3' RCA cable). There was a review on Home Theater Hi FI about them. And no I don't work for them, as my empty bank account will show, nor do I have any affiliation, nor have I ever reviewed them or received any free products from them.

Bluejeans, also is a lower priced cable company compared to "boutique" cables was reviewed on Home Theater Hi Fi the thing I like about them, they tell you what there selling, they don't market a bunch of fluff. They clearly state this is the cable we use, this is the connector. If you want it "pretty" they will wrap it in Techflex. Again as above I have no affiliation with Blue Jeans (or Home Theater Hi Fi) I never reviewed there products, nor have I received any free products or discounts from them.
post #172 of 772
2/5/08 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef View Post
Na man, the cable's awsome. If you heard it you would know this.

And by the way I'm not a fan of framing poor little kitty cats, shame on you.
I just don't understand this post. The guy was pretty much defending neutrality in the thread, and now you outright insult him and call him a liar? What basis do you have for him lying? I really doubt he made up the story that his cat destroyed his cable, and as a pet owner I have seen many similar instances when my dog was young (she's 12 years old now and over the "chew/scratch/mess with everything" phase). Especially considering cats, who are infamous for making scratching posts left and right out of things that are bulky and textured, which describe VD cables perfectly. Then again, I shouldn't have to make justifications for this because you have no basis whatsoever for basically slandering a member on this forum.

I usually stay out of cable debate forums, and usually just read them. This time, however, it's not about cables, but about your rudeness towards other members of this forum. If you feel like calling someone a liar, at least have SOME sort of substantiation for your claim so you don't sound like an arrogant lowlife. This isn't about cables, this isn't about corporate ethics - this is simply common courtesy and respect.
post #173 of 772
2/5/08 at 6:26pm
Head fi might be a big community, but news of this scam, as egregious and blatantly obvious as your "products" are, (err, garden hoses?) will spread through the community like wildfire. Companies like yours are only kept standing with the support of head-fi. Without head-fi, you have no customer base - there are plenty of other ripoff cable companies that are a lot more established that people can buy from. Excellent job alienating the customer base you desperately need. Don't forget it, because you need US way more than we need you. It seems pretty early so far to ruin your companies credibility, but you seemed to have found a way.... Its almost like you tried to... Anyway, grow some thicker skin, make your cables nicer next time and pick a new company name and barrel of lies to use before you try again. A tip though, be nicer to your customers, especially the potential ones.

Anyway, I'm sure Reddit and Digg would get a riot out of this thread. I bet it will even make the front page.
post #174 of 772
2/5/08 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by n4k33n View Post
Head fi might be a big community, but news of this scam, as egregious and blatantly obvious as your "products" are, (err, garden hoses?) will spread through the community like wildfire. Companies like yours are only kept standing with the support of head-fi. Without head-fi, you have no customer base - there are plenty of other ripoff cable companies that are a lot more established that people can buy from. Excellent job alienating the customer base you desperately need. Don't forget it, because you need US way more than we need you. It seems pretty early so far to ruin your companies credibility, but you seemed to have found a way.... Its almost like you tried to... Anyway, grow some thicker skin, make your cables nicer next time and pick a new company name and barrel of lies to use before you try again. A tip though, be nicer to your customers, especially the potential ones.

Anyway, I'm sure Reddit and Digg would get a riot out of this thread. I bet it will even make the front page.
If only VD were so tiny of an operation and really need head-fi to survive.

haven't been in this hobby for too long have u
post #175 of 772
2/5/08 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by n4k33n View Post
Head fi might be a big community, but news of this scam, as egregious and blatantly obvious as your "products" are, (err, garden hoses?) will spread through the community like wildfire. Companies like yours are only kept standing with the support of head-fi. Without head-fi, you have no customer base - there are plenty of other ripoff cable companies that are a lot more established that people can buy from. Excellent job alienating the customer base you desperately need. Don't forget it, because you need US way more than we need you. It seems pretty early so far to ruin your companies credibility, but you seemed to have found a way.... Its almost like you tried to... Anyway, grow some thicker skin, make your cables nicer next time and pick a new company name and barrel of lies to use before you try again. A tip though, be nicer to your customers, especially the potential ones.

Anyway, I'm sure Reddit and Digg would get a riot out of this thread. I bet it will even make the front page.

"Man, in his arrogance, actually believes that the earth would cease to exist if he were not here"
post #176 of 772
2/5/08 at 6:46pm
Sad but true. I think headfi only recently popped onto VD's marketing radar screen. The majority of VD's customers are more into full sized stereo rigs, who frequent forums such as audiogon, audioasylum, etc.

But never underestimate the power of the internet. Messages do get spread around rather quickly nowadays. This thread may not make a dent in your sales today, or tomorrow, or this month. But a couple of months down the line or even a couple of years down the line, who knows.


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Originally Posted by chesebert View Post
If only VD were so tiny of an operation and really need head-fi to survive.

haven't been in this hobby for too long have u
post #177 of 772
2/5/08 at 6:47pm
But surely a cable company would cease operations if people stopped buying their cables.


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Originally Posted by 883dave View Post
"Man, in his arrogance, actually believes that the earth would cease to exist if he were not here"
post #178 of 772
2/5/08 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by furball View Post
But surely a cable company would cease operations if people stopped buying their cables.
True, but how many people on Head-fi actually buy moderately expensive cables, say over 500.00 a pop?
post #179 of 772
2/5/08 at 7:07pm
Oh, oops. I'm sorry, with Acoustic Chef's juvenile responses, potentially unsafe product, and outright lies(!), I just assumed it was a new company. I was wrong about that, but regardless.... Welcome to the Internet VD! Transparency and knowledge are the laws of the land on the net. Information proliferates, especially hilarious stuff like this. All the audiophiles that scam companies ripped off for years now have access to objective reviews and info. I'd be willing to bet the days of shooting fish in a barrel are numbered. Anyway, I see this as a victory for the customer.

Head-fi results are ranked pretty high on google search results and this is a pretty popular thread, lol.
post #180 of 772
2/5/08 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
I'm going to point at the elephant in the room that no one is mentioning yet. I think this guy has people here in the board who are shilling for him without revealing their business relationship with him to the group. I outed one already. I bet there are more. This guy is a real piece of work.

Caveat emptor.

See ya
Steve
Outed one? You didn't out me, you dope. You do nothing but talk smack. I have no relationship with Virtual Dynamics AT ALL. I received two of their products and think they are excellent sounding products. When I said I had a conversation with the VD rep on Head-Fi, you assume that is had to do with sales when it had to do with nothing of the sort. If you saw the conversation, your would be shoving your foot so far up your mouth.
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