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post #136 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
Are your cables UL listed?
Doesn't UL only certify up to 10 gauge? If so you need to ask yourself why. and what is UL really...

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Originally Posted by gritzcolin View Post
Not as conductive as copper but it also doesn't corrode like copper and I will be damned if I am paying money for something that is supposed to improve SQ and have to sand it to keeps its conductivity at prime levels.
That's why we ProtecX treat our ends.

https://www.virtualdynamics.ca/Protecx/
post #137 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef View Post
Doesn't UL only certify up to 10 gauge? If so you need to ask yourself why.
Stop dodging the question, and answer it, you shill.
post #138 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by markl View Post
You can't get anything but the most basic of cords for $150.
You can get a basic power cord for $4 and it will sound exactly like any other power cord. I could go out and review the sound of every pebble in my yard, and decide which kind I thought sounded best, but it wouldn't make Brilliant Pebbles anything more than sucker bait.

See ya
Steve
post #139 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:23pm
How many aftermarket cords are UL listed? Almost none. How many of these headphone amps are UL listed?
post #140 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef View Post
Now how conductive is nickel?
Well, according to this, the resistivity of pure nickel is somewhat less three times that of pure gold; 6.842E-08 Ohm/m compared to 2.463E-08 Ohm/m. Of course, the actual materials used to plate connectors in the real world are definitely not going to be pure metals, but I think these provide a decent comparison. It doesn't look good for nickel, that's for sure...

But, consider this: the thickness of these platings is likely going to be on the order of microns. That's one-millionth of a meter. The change in resistivity of the plating is going to have a pretty minimal effect on the overall resistance of the cable.
post #141 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:27pm
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you shill
Wow, you got him pegged and uncovered his secret. Yes, Acoustic Chef works for VD and represents their products, you have amazing power of insight. Congrats on rooting that one out.


Also ironic when I read you pimping other cable manufacturers products elsewhere on these boards.
post #142 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by markl View Post
Wow, you got him pegged and uncovered his secret. Yes, Acoustic Chef works for VD and represents their products, you have amazing power of insight. Congrats on rooting that one out.


Also ironic when I read you pimping other cable manufacturers products elsewhere on these boards.
Yes, because Fitz, Monoprice, and Blue Jeans Cable all claim to make cables that sound so much better than anything else and charge $30,000 for them. Those companies and VD are so similar, aren't they?
post #143 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef View Post
Doesn't UL only certify up to 10 gauge? If so you need to ask yourself why. and what is UL really...
Underwriters Laboratories

Looking for, and finding, the UL Mark on a product tells you that samples of this product line have been thoroughly tested and investigated by our team of product safety professionals. If you're not familiar with the UL Mark, it's the letters "UL" inside a circle. Look on your hair dryer, toaster or vacuum cleaner -- it's likely to be there. The UL Mark of Safety should be on every electrical product, fire extinguisher and fuel-burning appliance in your home.

Virtual Dynamics is not listed in their Online Certifications Directory.

If you carry homeowner's insurance on your belongings, you should ask your insurance agent how using a non-UL listed "handmade" power cable might impact your ability to make a claim in case of fire. If you rent, you might want to ask your landlord how he feels about you using homemade electrical equipment that hasn't been certified.

I'm going to point at the elephant in the room that no one is mentioning yet. I think this guy has people here in the board who are shilling for him without revealing their business relationship with him to the group. I outed one already. I bet there are more. This guy is a real piece of work.

Caveat emptor.

See ya
Steve
post #144 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:52pm
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Yes, because Fitz, Monoprice, and Blue Jeans Cable all claim to make cables that sound so much better than anything else and charge $30,000 for them. Those companies and VD are so similar, aren't they?
I see, so it's not shilling when you are doing it for a lower priced product. Gotcha.

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I think this guy has people here in the board who are shilling for him without revealing their business relationship with him to the group. I outed one already. I bet there are more.
Speaking for myself, I'm just a satisfied customer. What about the shills for other cable companies using this thread as an opportunity to bash another cable maker? Do you see them here as well?
post #145 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by markl View Post
How many aftermarket cords are UL listed? Almost none. How many of these headphone amps are UL listed?
I think that is a valid question, and one that should be taken into account when someone buys any electrical product. Underwriters Laboratories provides certification for cables under 70 different categories according to their website.

UL: General Wire & Cable FAQ

Do these cables even meet NEC code?

With a ten times markup over cost (or more) cable manufacturers can certainly afford getting their products safety tested for crying out loud. I've googled up this info in ten minutes. Has anyone at Virtual Dynamics taken ten minutes out of their valuable time to insure the safety of their customers? It's one thing for a battery operated Cmoy amp. It's something entirely different for a power cable that stays plugged in to your wall socket 24/7.

See ya
Steve
post #146 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:57pm
How else do you think this thread got so long? This thread got so long because these people want to bury the truth with utter nonsense, insults, and drag all of us through the mud --> muddy the waters so to speak.

And about that "powercord review" our esteemed resident reviewer did... Kind of makes me wonder about those "expert" reviews...


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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
I'm going to point at the elephant in the room that no one is mentioning yet. I think this guy has people here in the board who are shilling for him without revealing their business relationship with him to the group. I outed one already. I bet there are more. This guy is a real piece of work.

Caveat emptor.

See ya
Steve
post #147 of 772
2/5/08 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by markl View Post
Wow, you got him pegged and uncovered his secret. Yes, Acoustic Chef works for VD and represents their products, you have amazing power of insight. Congrats on rooting that one out.
Since you've addressed the issue, I'll ask you, have you ever received any audio products for a reduced price or for free to use for your reviews? Have you ever received any compensation of any sort from any audio equipment manufacturer or retailer?

It's a fair question since one poster on this thread has already indicated that he has a business relationship with Virtual Dynamics.

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Originally Posted by markl View Post
What about the shills for other cable companies using this thread as an opportunity to bash another cable maker? Do you see them here as well?
I think that shills for other high end cable manufacturers would be well advised to stay clear of this thread. No good is going to come of any of this for them. Light is getting shined on the dirty little secret.

See ya
Steve
post #148 of 772
2/5/08 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by markl View Post
I see, so it's not shilling when you are doing it for a lower priced product. Gotcha.
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Originally Posted by American Heritage Dictionary
shill (shĭl) pronunciation Slang.
n.

One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.

v., shilled, shill·ing, shills.

v.intr.

To act as a shill.
v.tr.

1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.
Let's see here, BJC et al. aren't trying to "swindle" anyone (they don't make false claims), and I do not work for them, whereas Acoustic Chef works for VD, and VD does make false claims.

See the difference?
post #149 of 772
2/5/08 at 3:03pm
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post #150 of 772
2/5/08 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by furball View Post
Markl is our resident "golden ear."
Don't you mean egotist?
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