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post #76 of 89
This thread isn't about sound quality or anything subjective, it's about empirical claims made by a manufacturer. Presumably they've done testing that will prove their case...
post #77 of 89
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Originally Posted by gotchaforce View Post
in most industries? of course.

in the audio world however there is incredible amounts of faith in products as testing is very hard to accomplish with "what someone hears". people basically dont require companies to backup their claims, they just take whatever they say for truth in a pursuit for better sound.
Well not really, we are making a little progress, of course some of the parameters as you say, are not even measurable, but in Europe for example, all specs manufacturers post on any website, about audio equipment should be backed a third party lab by the law, that double check them, and in cases do themselves all those measurements and certify those, those are specialized labs implemented just for that purpose, besides the hassle of the lead and environmental measures as well.....all those are documented, and should be kept by the manufacturer for some time.
In Japan while importing electronics, they check some specs as well, and after they passed all tests, they placed a seal on the back, certifying they accomplish all the regulations they tested, and so on....here is America they are more arbitrary regarding these things...
post #78 of 89
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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony View Post
This thread isn't about sound quality or anything subjective, it's about empirical claims made by a manufacturer. Presumably they've done testing that will prove their case...
im saying that even empirical claims get absorbed by the "you cant test what i hear!" bubble in the audio world because of how much faith is already given.

its kind of disturbing really.

then again it answers things like why so many new cable companies pop up dealing exclusively in "audiophile grade cables"
post #79 of 89
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But the all important question is, how do these powercords sound?
Of the 20+ cords I've tried, the VD cables remain my favs.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f22/it...7/#post2651170
post #80 of 89
It looks like we've found our answer! From the Wikipedia page on Virtual Dynamics:

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Speed of Light

SoL (as it is often referred to), is a Virtual Dynamics original technology. It consists of powerful neodymium magnets applied directly to the conductor of the cable. The use of powerful, permanent, rare-earth magnets dampen the extremely high audio frequencies; this proves to calm the brightness of a system, and allow a more natural flow of music. More testing is needed to determine the source of these positive improvements in performance.

The highest levels of Speed of Light are referred to as "Big Ass Magnets" or BAMs in the Virtual Dynamics production department. These massive magnets range in size from a half pound to more than 2 pounds. Special care is taken while handling these magnets because a poorly placed hand could easily be crushed.

* The use of magnetic shields to concentrate the magnetic fields is in all cables Master series and above.
According to this information, their use of magnets passively attenuates high frequency response. I guess these cables aren't for people who desire accuracy...
post #81 of 89
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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony View Post
It looks like we've found our answer! From the Wikipedia page on Virtual Dynamics:



According to this information, their use of magnets passively attenuates high frequency response. I guess these cables aren't for people who desire accuracy...
I can pin point instrument better in the Z axis with VD cables. e.g. instrument 3ft behind speaker at 50degree; or 2ft in front of the speaker at 130degree (wrt to my head).
post #82 of 89
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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony View Post
Exceeding the speed of light would be pretty amazing.
I think it would get someone name recognition with Stephen Hawking, debunk Einstein's Theory of Relativity and perhaps win that person some kind of medal or Nobel award. I always thought his name would be Zephram Cochran though.
post #83 of 89
Thread Starter 
No, Rick beat Zephram to it.

It will be written down in the annals of history, that Rick, of Virtual Dynamics fame, was the first human to have achieved faster than light travel!




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Originally Posted by gritzcolin View Post
I think it would get someone name recognition with Stephen Hawking, debunk Einstein's Theory of Relativity and perhaps win that person some kind of medal or Nobel award. I always thought his name would be Zephram Cochran though.
post #84 of 89
Now if he could make a car with this technology!!!!!
post #85 of 89
The Wikipedia article about Virtual Dynamics was recently deleted because it was deemed an advertisement, so here's the cached text for anyone who wanted to read their claims:

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Virtual Dynamics
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Virtual Dynamics is a High-end audio cable manufacturer from Barrhead, Alberta, Canada. Virtual Dynamics brought new and innovative technologies to the cable market such as Speed of Light and Dynamic Filtering.

Contents

* 1 The company
* 2 Products
* 3 Technologies
o 3.1 AVM 2.0
o 3.2 Brass vibration clutch
o 3.3 Cryogenic treatment
o 3.4 Cable conditioning
o 3.5 Cable cooking
o 3.6 Dielectric layers
o 3.7 Dynamic filtering
o 3.8 LiniPur conductors
o 3.9 ProtecX
o 3.10 Seamfree RCA
o 3.11 Speed of Light
* 4 Community
* 5 External links

The company

Virtual Dynamics started in 2001 in the basement of audio enthusiast Ricky Schultz. During a time of financial difficulty Schultz started making his own audio cables. He soon discovered that by applying a few simple techniques, he could make cables that he thought were even better than what was being sold in the marketplace. Excited about the discovery, Schultz decided to dive into the audiophile market and sell his own brand of cables.

Now, Virtual Dynamics has grown exponentially in it's staff, technologies, and available products. Relocated at least 3 times, doubling in size each time, the handful of R's friends and family have become a full fledged staff. Branching from not just manufacturing, but sales and marketing with multiple layers of management and human resources. Thanks to use of the internet, Virtual Dynamics has become a well recognized name in the international high-end audio market.

Products

Basic Power
Power One
Power Three
Testament Series
David Series
Nite Series
Master Series
Master Limited Edition
Revelation Series
Genesis Series
Judge Series

Technologies

AVM 2.0

Anti-Vibration Magic is a very effective, albeit costly, solution designed to eliminate mechanical vibration caused by Friction. The paint-on application makes it extremely versatile for use on any parts or equipment subject to internal or external vibration.

Brass vibration clutch

This external solid brass clamp is the final treatment addressing mechanical vibration. The clamp exerts extreme pressure to the cable further enhancing the already dramatic effect of the internally applied brass Dynamic Filtering.

Cryogenic treatment

Virtual Dynamics utilizes the latest in Cryogenic Technology - computer controlled deep cryogenic chambers freeze our product to 81 kelvins (−192 °C or −378 °F). At these low temperatures, the conductor is restructured at the atomic level. As a result, the conductor becomes a more stable environment for the flow of electrical energy, reducing the amount of Coulomb Friction produced, and, in turn, the levels of distortion. Cryogenically enhanced cables enable even inaudible harmonics to be fully realized.

Cable conditioning

A process to speed-up the break-in process of Virtual Dynamics cabling. Such large gauge conductors require numerous hours to break-in, depending on the cable it ranges from 400 to 1600 hours. Some of the load is taken off the end-user by running high-voltage currents through the cables before they are shipped.

Cable cooking

Virtual Dynamics takes cable condition to the next level using Audio Dharma's cable cooker. It is a Stereophile Recommended Component for 3 years running and greatly improves the sound quality of all forms of interconnect (including A-V and phono), speaker cabling, and power cabling beyond any normal break-in cycle. The cable cooking process exposes the cable to extreme signal levels and a special waveform that does not occur in normal system operation. As a result, the cable breaks in more thoroughly.

Dielectric layers

A dielectric layer is a substance that is highly resistant to electric current. Virtual Dynamics utilizes various materials as dielectrics, with the layer closest to the conductor being Mylar.

Dynamic filtering

Dynamic filtering utilizes specially designed particles as a coupled mass to transmit vibration away from the conductor. This allows vibration-based energies to be removed. This application is believed to offer lower noise floor and and increased accuracy which enhances imaging, sound stage and tonality.

Dynamic filtering is applied via 4 different materials (in ascending order of effectiveness): -Iron -Steel -Bronze -Brass

In the Genesis Series, the density is further increased through the use of the brass vibration clutch.

LiniPur conductors

Virtual Dynamics is one of the few audio cable manufacturers to use solid core (non-stranded) conductors in their cables. Not only do they use solid core, but they also use extremely large gauge sizes of it (up to 6 gauge for retail, with prototypes up to 4 gauge). Virtual Dynamics believes this is the most effective way to increase conductivity in a cable. Large gauge grants an increase in the speed, linearity and bandwidth of all electrical frequencies but some audiophiles believe that large-gauge conductors sound thick and muddy. However, Virtual Dynamics claims that through dynamic filtering, this problem is eliminated.

ProtecX

ProtecX is based on polyphenyl ether and its purpose is to clean, lubricate, and protect conductors. It molecularly bonds to metals to eliminate oxidization and improve conductivity. Virtual Dynamics applies ProtecX to all their terminations and connectors.

Seamfree RCA

Another technology completely unique to Virtual Dynamics. A SeamFree RCA connection completely eliminates the need for termination techniques. RCA connectors are modified to allow the actual conductor to pass through as the RCA pin. No need to lose sound quality by pushing energy through less conductive solder material.

This technology is available in the Master, Master LE and Revelation cable series interconnects.

Speed of Light

SoL (as it is often referred to), is a Virtual Dynamics original technology. It consists of powerful neodymium magnets applied directly to the conductor of the cable. The use of powerful, permanent, rare-earth magnets dampen the extremely high audio frequencies; this proves to calm the brightness of a system, and allow a more natural flow of music. More testing is needed to determine the source of these positive improvements in performance.

The highest levels of Speed of Light are referred to as "Big Ass Magnets" or BAMs in the Virtual Dynamics production department. These massive magnets range in size from a half pound to more than 2 pounds. Special care is taken while handling these magnets because a poorly placed hand could easily be crushed.

* The use of magnetic shields to concentrate the magnetic fields is in all cables Master series and above.

Community

Virtual Dynamics cables has earned a large fan following by a variety of audiophiles and music lovers. Primarily due to their high quality products but also due to the relationship building dedication of the sales team.

In November of 2007 the company launched a promotion to give away 100 free Power Three cables. This sparked widespread interest and was discussed on a number of web forums, notably, Head-Fi.org.

External links

Virtual Dynamics Website
Luminance Audio
Virtual Dynamics Blog
Virtual Dynamics on YouTube
Audiogon
post #86 of 89
post #87 of 89
Thread Starter 
Let me summarize:

1) Rick was in dire financial straits
2) Started making Virtual Dynamics cables in his basement
3) In a span of just a few years, workspace trippled in size, took on numerous staff

Conclusion: Rick may not be a genius electrical engineer, but he sure is a shrewd businessman, you have to give him credit for that.


Now, with this much $$$$$ to be made in audiophile cable business, when can I start my own company selling fancy pseudoscience cables?
post #88 of 89
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Originally Posted by furball View Post
Let me summarize:

1) Rick was in dire financial straits
2) Started making Virtual Dynamics cables in his basement
3) In a span of just a few years, workspace trippled in size, took on numerous staff

Conclusion: Rick may not be a genius electrical engineer, but he sure is a shrewd businessman, you have to give him credit for that.


Now, with this much $$$$$ to be made in audiophile cable business, when can I start my own company selling fancy pseudoscience cables?
Wanna make woody cables, and apply subwoofer magnets to them? Just get some garden hose, sawdust, and some copper (are you good at smelting?) and we are on our way bud!!!

Join the Dimensionally Dynamical team!!!!

Magnets on our woody cables are bigger than your mom's Double Ds!!!!!!
post #89 of 89
Thread Starter 
You are on buddy!

So, here's the tag line for our new joint venture -- tentatively named Multi-Dimensional Dynamics.


"For ages people have always assumed that electrons travel in 3D space, but our latest research reveals that electrons actually travel in higher dimensions! That's right, electrons can travel through as much as 8 dimensions of space! The primitive construction of traditional audio cables is such that they limit the speed at which the electrons can travel through all 8 dimensions, thus they create the bottleneck in achieving the ultimate audio quality. For the first time ever, the team at Multi-Dimensional Dynamics brings you a REVOLUTIONARY audio cable that actually facilitates the transfer of electrons through ALL 8 dimensions of spaces! Bringing you unsurpassed improvement in audio quality!"

Hey buddy, how much do you think we should charge for our saw dust filled garden hose coupled to big a** magnets, now that we have this pretty marketing slogan? I was thinking 5 figures at least. What do you think?


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Originally Posted by MontyPythizzle View Post
Wanna make woody cables, and apply subwoofer magnets to them? Just get some garden hose, sawdust, and some copper (are you good at smelting?) and we are on our way bud!!!

Join the Dimensionally Dynamical team!!!!

Magnets on our woody cables are bigger than your mom's Double Ds!!!!!!
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