So what's the word on the new Ultrasone HFI-780???? - Page 60

Guess we can agree on some things then!

for everyone else, here is the PM I responded to about this, as it's easier to just paste it in for everyone who cares.

The Darth Shallow cup need EQ to add 3-4db in the 250-500Hz range, and to remove 3-4db from the 64-125Hz range - otherwise the bass is boxy and boomy, and the mids are withdrawn and too distant. I am told the deep cup Darths don't have that problem.

The 780 if left stock need careful selection in choice of amplifier, or of the opamps and tubes in the amplifier, so they don't augment the bright treble. The treble is not a problem in most good recordings, but recordings with sibilance in them stand out as a problem. With 250 hours on them, it was better than at 100 hours, but the only thing that made the problem go away completely was the ALO re-cable with removal of the diode board. After the re-cable I have absolutely NO complaints about the 780's, i.e. I find no glaring or irritating faults in them. Bass is tight and strong, mids are rich and warm, and highs are smooth and crisp - with good detail throughout.

However, when I compare them to my Edition 9 (2-3x the cost of the ALO modded one, depending on the cable), the 780 have a little less size to the soundstage, and a little less body and texture to the instruments. The sound is so similar they sound like siblings, but the sound is different enough that you wont mix them up when listening blindfolded.

Larry

I wonder how the 780's would sound with the drivers in the 750/Ed 9 ? Might be interesting if the dimensions are right.

I like this site because i love audio, but i care about others too. Is a quality and a defect mine...
In other hand. To buy the things that i have now. I have to save for a lot of time (headphones). The laptop that i have now, I get after of sell an odontologic office of my mother (was a long and an hard work to get the client and to solve some debt problems (and was my first time that i do something like that) in notary's office). The money that i got* (the half (the other half was for the other "partner" of my mother (and old and unfriendly and common woman) that didn't do nothing ))*was for cancel mother's debts and the rest was for my brothers that not live with me.

I buy my beyerdynamic headphones, because i want isolation (DT770pro) and after the DT990 to replace my ex 5.1 speakers that i can't use and i known (in agreed of all the research that i make for months ) that this headphone was the only with the characteristics to replace them, and i buy them when the price was the best.

Ah, you don't need to be sarcastic, OK?. And if i has a lot of money in this moment, i will make my contribution to the red cross or to other charity agencies.
I don't speak for speak.

Well, going to the thread. it will be interesting a real comparison between the HFI-780 and Pro750...

I agree with a lot of that. I think the HFI780 are more of a music can than the HFI700, while the 2500 don't do movies as well as music. Addionally, the 780 can do both well but with a different presentation for music than the 2500. The dialog is just too distant on the 2500 for movies, but music takes on a bigger soundstage with 2500 than with the 780 which is more upfront.

The 780 also isolate better than the HFI700, and have bigger ear cups with more room, and they feel more solid than the 700. The 780 bass is to die for.

Unfortunately the drivers are glued down
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/3846959-post351.html
like on the older HFI-650
http://www.dansdata.com/images/us650/650bits1024.jpg

Yes, at this point I do hope the 780's pull back a little. I know we all have different tastes but they are just a bit aggressive (forward mids and a touch of brightness). Hopefully some more time will tame them or maybe a cable change.

Any thoughts on using the 780s with Pico/DAC? Thanks.

t

If I am not imagining things, there was an old post somewhere in "There is something about Ultrasones" from one of the Ultrasone engineers who used Proline drivers in HFI-700 enclosures.

Don't they have mylar drivers that do not require as much burn as titanium plated in Prolines?

the dj models have the mylar drivers that are not titanium coated I think

I would guess that the substrate is mylar for both but one has titanium while the 780 has gold as a appliqué or spray over it.

That is what I have read.