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post #601 of 2328
Despite my previous posts I just want to say that these are not terrible sounding they just accentuate certain frequencies that have always bothered my ears. I think with them being closed(but not sounding like it) and retaining all that sound pressure may be a large part of my problem. They are very forward and switching back to my K501 is instant relief but for those who like that you should love them.

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post #602 of 2328
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Originally Posted by Kees View Post
I actually think he has a point.
It is perfectly allright for you to like an enormous amount of bass slam or whatever, but that doesn't mean that the 780s are better suited for music listening.
Ultrasone designed the 680s for music listening and the 780s for movies and the like. With bigger bass than they consider optimal for serious music listening. At least that's what Ultrasone say about their own product.
It just might be that they know what they are talking about...
I'd like to know how Dex is doing with his 680s.
firstly, I dont think the 780s have bigger bass than what is considered optimal for serious music listening. If that's the case, perhaps they should've said 680 - music and 780 - (DVD and gaming but not for music listeners). When I read the brochure I interpret that as "also suitable for watching DVDs and games" . Ultimately one has to hear both and decide what sounds best to their ears. I'm waiting for Dex to chime in here. He has both so is in a really good position to articulate the differences between these models.
post #603 of 2328
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Originally Posted by silverrain View Post
Okay -- I just got home from work, and put my 780's back on burn-in -- I put on my favorite "testing" CD by Keren Ann (title is same) because it has, on this one CD, the first 4 tracks that will show a new can's abilities all the way from top to bottom of the freq. range, pretty much.
So, setting the volume for continuing the burn-in on the shiny new 780's, I found amazing results!
The "highs" track showed me stuff that usually only my Grado RS-1's would show!l
The "lows" track showed me a low bass note SQ that only my deep-cup Darths have matched!
The female vocal mids are sweet!
I am stunned...and happy as a clam in mud.
If these can actually get any better with more burn-in, I could then live with these as the ONLY can I own, if it ever came to that.
Did I get an exceptional pair?
I just know I would not take $500 for these right now. No lie.
I think I just had an eargasm.
This takes me back to when I first listened to them and compared them to my UE9s. Your right on.
post #604 of 2328
How does these compare to Denon D2000s? I just wanted know, these maybe a possible next can for me
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post #606 of 2328
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Originally Posted by silverrain View Post
To *me*:
bass is tighter and goes lower, more detail
highs go higher, more detail, but no harshness
mids are similar -- a mid is a mid, sorta -- but I know my fav female vocals are really sweet-sounding on both cans -- but I think the 780 may have an edge here, too.
What about punch .
post #607 of 2328
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Originally Posted by musicmaker View Post
firstly, I dont think the 780s have bigger bass than what is considered optimal for serious music listening. If that's the case, perhaps they should've said 680 - music and 780 - (DVD and gaming but not for music listeners). When I read the brochure I interpret that as "also suitable for watching DVDs and games" . Ultimately one has to hear both and decide what sounds best to their ears. I'm waiting for Dex to chime in here. He has both so is in a really good position to articulate the differences between these models.
The local home theater store in my area sells only Grado headphones, which they consider great for movies
post #608 of 2328
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Originally Posted by ricepicker View Post
Is this guy for serious? I laughed out loud at his comment. I guess I have NO knowledge of any music because I like to hear some bass slam in my music. Everyone has the same taste in music as you skip2 because you have golden ears. And yes I am buying the 780's because the number is bigger.:ro lleyes:. Not the fact that I can't try out or buy the 680's here in America. Ridiculous. This is what happens when head-fi newbies think they know something, and speak up.
lol. yes i am serious. i truly am wondering why most people are going for the hfi780's instead of the hfi680's for music listening. i guess the reason for most people is that you can't get the hfi680's in usa apparently (wouldn't know as i haven't checked as i live in finland). and apparently most of the people in this board are from the usa (wouldn't know that either, but so it seems now).
i've never understood why anyone would want their music to sound anything but as natural as possible. i guess i'm in the minority there as i know most people like excess bass. i just wouldn't think most people on a headphone hi-fi board do. that's why i was confused about why people were going for the 780's and not the 680's. that's all.
which lead me to wonder if people were getting the 780's just because the number is bigger expecting them to be a "higher" model than the 680. i know it would be easy to assume so as the numbers, IMO at least, are very misleading. i thought so too when i first looked at these phones, but then learned otherwise because i wanted to know what the differences were.
that's all, no need to get your panties in a bunch over it.
also very mature calling me a newbie just because i posted something you don't like.
i'm not here to start fights or trying to stir **** up. i'm here because i love great sound even though i'm no audiophile and because i need new headphones because my current ones aren't satisfying my needs.
post #609 of 2328
I personally don't think of the 780's bass as being over-powerful. It is there if the tracks have it. It is not there otherwise. It does not invent bass in other words like some may suggest.
post #610 of 2328
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Originally Posted by slwiser View Post
I personally don't think of the 780's bass as being over-powerful. It is there if the tracks have it. It is not there otherwise. It does not invent bass in other words like some may suggest.
that's good to hear, i guess. but i still am very eagerly awaiting to hear comparisons between the 780s and 680. because if the 780 are this good, i'd imagine that the 680 would be even better (for neutral music listening, which is what i prefer, that is).
oh well, i guess we'll hear this soon enough.
post #611 of 2328
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Originally Posted by skip2 View Post
also very mature calling me a newbie just because i posted something you don't like.
I think it's more because you spoke ex cathedra... your values and what you feel to be "correct reproduction of audio material" do not apply to everyone. You accused people of having no taste/feeling for music. That's not good, and comes over in a quite arrogant way.

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Originally Posted by skip2 View Post
(i dunno who would want that for music or even games and movies, expect people that don't really know anything about sound but just want as much bass as possible ).
On a side note, I hope that one good Hifi store near me is getting the HFI-780 soon, can't wait to try them...
post #612 of 2328
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Originally Posted by dfkt View Post
I think it's more because you spoke ex cathedra... your values and what you feel to be "correct reproduction of audio material" do not apply to everyone. You accused people of having no taste/feeling for music. That's not good, and comes over in a quite arrogant way.
x2 for sure. I would expect an immature response from an immature comment. But anyways. Hope you can try out the 780's dkft. I'm eagerly awaiting mine. Too bad they are shipped UPS ground.
post #613 of 2328
Ok, i will be waiting for you impression then, and i will be very grateful for that...
Don't forget the files that i put before...
thanks
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Originally Posted by silverrain View Post
I'm not (I feel) an expert on soundstage judgement.
I'm sure a better "soundstager" will answer this for you.
If nobody has said anything about this when I am done with the burn-in, I will give them another listen at that time, and give my opinion on this for you.
So far, the deepest I have heard was the (05) DT990, going from memory.
But, these DID have some depth to them.
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post #615 of 2328
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Originally Posted by silverrain View Post
That impressed me, too.

I didn't think the 780 was gonna beat my D2000 in any way -- boy, what a nice surprise I got!

Now that you made me remember the impression of "punch" I was hit with (so to speak), as I have posted this, I actually can't think of a single way in which the D2000 SQ is better than the 780's.
Quite the opposite is true.
And I love my D2000.
But, *so far*, I now love the 780 better.
That's awesome. Of course I'll still have to take your word with a grain of salt. I'll post my impressions here when I get mine.
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