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post #1651 of 2328
4/2/08 at 10:41pm
Nice review,very easy to understand.
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post #1652 of 2328
4/2/08 at 11:58pm
Thanks for the very thorough review. You put a lot of thought and effort into this, making it comprehensive and informative.
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post #1653 of 2328
4/2/08 at 11:59pm
Thread Starter 
Agreed, very well done!
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post #1654 of 2328
4/3/08 at 5:17am
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Originally Posted by silverrain View Post
Which part of these imperative statements, did you NOT understand?

"Labeling other people in any way is childish."

"stop complaining about *people*"

NOWEHERE does it say to NOT express an opinon about the cans -- other people have THEIR opinions, too. About the cans, NOT the other peoples' tastes, etc....
And, every person's opinion is the "truth" to *them* -- obviously!
A reader can then form their OWN impression, based on the presented evidence.

This thread is chock-full of peoples' opinions of what they think about he 780's -- all very helpful to help make a buy decision (or not).
Your opinion of the 780 is just as valid as anyone else's -- but, no need for labeling people.
Stick to writing about the cans....

Better re-read what I actually wrote up there, and NOT jump to erroneous assumptions.
Is English a second-language for you?
If so, that could explain people making such mistakes in understanding -- like this.
Something as simple as what I worte really should be easily understood -- it's basic reading comprehension for an english-speaking person -- otherwise, anything can happen!
"Stuff" happens on an international board -- unavoidable.
This is the last I will write about this -- no matter what.
You don't really need to explain me obvious things, I have a feeling that YOU didn't understand what I actually meant, and what "the true" is. I'm don't want to use this space for personal things, so I will not reply anymore. English is my third language, but it's not a problem.
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post #1655 of 2328
4/3/08 at 7:31am
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Nice work dfkt! BTW, how many hours in your HFI-780's? Thanks.
Thanks! I had them for around 20 days at the time I wrote the review. They were more or less in constant use, with just a few breaks.
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post #1656 of 2328
4/3/08 at 9:14am
great job dfkt - you know, there is a reason you are one of my favourite headfiers! i have not heard these but it would be fun someday to compare them with my dj1pro which look much much cheaper but i am quite sure will hold up fairly well - they are wonderful. my problem with every single ultrasone is however the headband. i have a very narrow head and these just barely stay up on my head.

one of the reasons i sold my at-ad700 was combined with the weight of them, these things just slid down my head. the ad900 did not do that as they are less heavy. but the ultrasones grip a bit more which is nice but they do also make it hard to get positioning correct. i also wear glasses which makes them hard to wear. i love them to death and the 780 looks so damn sweet. so damn sweet.

cheers for the review and this massive thread that i think no one would have believed has gotten this big in such a small amount of time, easily smacking atrio m5 and denon c700 in the face!
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post #1657 of 2328
4/3/08 at 7:27pm

Driver Transplant

I knew I'll find this thread one day.
HFI-700 with Proline 750 drivers.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/2774798-post127.html
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/2774809-post128.html
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post #1658 of 2328
4/6/08 at 9:12pm
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Thanks to HeadphoneAddict, I was able to spend some time comparing the ALO Audio modded and recabled HFI-780 to the S2 Audio modded and recabled 780.

First and foremost, both of these mods do a great job in addressing the main shortcomings of the stock 780. Both smooth out the treble peaks, and relax the midrange aggressiveness. The ALO modded set are slightly smoother throughout, but just a little. In either case, the main goal is accomplished - both versions sound excellent in this regard.

However, neither mod significantly improves the problem with the soundstage being shallow. Both improve it a little, and again the ALO maybe just slightly more, but for people who are ga-ga over soundstage depth, look elsewhere.

The ALO 780 also had slightly less lump bass response, I felt. this was still pretty subtle versus the S2 audio version, though.

So overall, in terms of JUST sonics, the ALO version is slightly better, IMO.

HOWEVER, there are some other factors. First, the ALO mod is more than 2x the price of the S2 mod. But more than that, the ALO modded cable is really badly microphonic. The S2 Audio cable is somewhat microphonic when it's rubbed or tapped, but the S2 cable isn't microphonic when one just turns one's head - the ALO cable is. With the ALO cable, you have to stay totally still, or you get loud microphonics. I found this troubling.

I also greatly prefer the single entry configuration of the S2 Audio recable, and I prefer the looks. That, and the price, make the S2 version much easier to recommend than the ALO version, IMHO, in spite of the ALO version offering very slightly better sound.
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post #1659 of 2328
4/6/08 at 9:20pm
I was trying to decide on who to go to to recable my D2000's, APS or S2... I guess S2 it is
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post #1660 of 2328
4/6/08 at 9:21pm
I am pretty excited, my S2 recabled HFI 780 are coming this week. I have been extremely impressed with the stuff I have gotten from them so far. Build quality, turn around time and customer service has been absolutely top notch.
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post #1661 of 2328
4/6/08 at 9:29pm
Nice short review skylab. By the way, I think you mean "make it much easier to recommend the S2 version..."

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I also greatly prefer the single entry configuration of the S2 Audio recable, and I prefer the looks. That, and the price, make it much easier to recommend than the ALO version, IMHO, in spite of the ALO version offering very slightly better sound.
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post #1662 of 2328
4/6/08 at 9:47pm
I just sent in my stock version to get the S2 mod just this past friday. I am eager to hear it and compare it myself to my alo mod vampire version.

I couldn't bring myself to get another alo mod, even though I like it I couldn't afford it right now... and also couldn't even feel good about giving them to my brother stock hahaha oh well...let's see how they sound
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post #1663 of 2328
4/6/08 at 10:27pm

Ha ha, i had reason after of all...

Just that i was waiting....
The soundstage depth issue, still concern me, but now is better and it must be more tolerable now... (i can expand it more)
All of this improvements for just 1/3 the price than the Normal ALO (just as good in sound quality but with a more robust and a beautiful cable) and with one entry, which is better (not as cumbersome/hindrance/nuisance than an Y cable).
Well, is my opinion...

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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Thanks to HeadphoneAddict, I was able to spend some time comparing the ALO Audio modded and recabled HFI-780 to the S2 Audio modded and recabled 780.

First and foremost, both of these mods do a great job in addressing the main shortcomings of the stock 780. Both smooth out the treble peaks, and relax the midrange aggressiveness. The ALO modded set are slightly smoother throughout, but just a little. In either case, the main goal is accomplished - both versions sound excellent in this regard.

However, neither mod significantly improves the problem with the soundstage being shallow. Both improve it a little, and again the ALO maybe just slightly more, but for people who are ga-ga over soundstage depth, look elsewhere.

The ALO 780 also had slightly less lump bass response, I felt. this was still pretty subtle versus the S2 audio version, though.

So overall, in terms of JUST sonics, the ALO version is slightly better, IMO.

HOWEVER, there are some other factors. First, the ALO mod is more than 2x the price of the S2 mod. But more than that, the ALO modded cable is really badly microphonic. The S2 Audio cable is somewhat microphonic when it's rubbed or tapped, but the S2 cable isn't microphonic when one just turns one's head - the ALO cable is. With the ALO cable, you have to stay totally still, or you get loud microphonics. I found this troubling.

I also greatly prefer the single entry configuration of the S2 Audio recable, and I prefer the looks. That, and the price, make the S2 version much easier to recommend than the ALO version, IMHO, in spite of the ALO version offering very slightly better sound.
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post #1664 of 2328
4/6/08 at 10:29pm
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Thanks to HeadphoneAddict, I was able to spend some time comparing the ALO Audio modded and recabled HFI-780 to the S2 Audio modded and recabled 780.

First and foremost, both of these mods do a great job in addressing the main shortcomings of the stock 780. Both smooth out the treble peaks, and relax the midrange aggressiveness. The ALO modded set are slightly smoother throughout, but just a little. In either case, the main goal is accomplished - both versions sound excellent in this regard.

However, neither mod significantly improves the problem with the soundstage being shallow. Both improve it a little, and again the ALO maybe just slightly more, but for people who are ga-ga over soundstage depth, look elsewhere.

The ALO 780 also had slightly less lump bass response, I felt. this was still pretty subtle versus the S2 audio version, though.

So overall, in terms of JUST sonics, the ALO version is slightly better, IMO.

HOWEVER, there are some other factors. First, the ALO mod is more than 2x the price of the S2 mod. But more than that, the ALO modded cable is really badly microphonic. The S2 Audio cable is somewhat microphonic when it's rubbed or tapped, but the S2 cable isn't microphonic when one just turns one's head - the ALO cable is. With the ALO cable, you have to stay totally still, or you get loud microphonics. I found this troubling.

I also greatly prefer the single entry configuration of the S2 Audio recable, and I prefer the looks. That, and the price, make the S2 version much easier to recommend than the ALO version, IMHO, in spite of the ALO version offering very slightly better sound.
Couldn't have said it better myself. No way I could have said it better . Although I wish the recable didn't get rid of the agressiveness .
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post #1665 of 2328
4/6/08 at 11:34pm
Thank you Rob. This is exactly the comparison I've been looking for. Clear, to-the-point and nice write up as usual. Makes my decision easier.

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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Thanks to HeadphoneAddict, I was able to spend some time comparing the ALO Audio modded and recabled HFI-780 to the S2 Audio modded and recabled 780.

First and foremost, both of these mods do a great job in addressing the main shortcomings of the stock 780. Both smooth out the treble peaks, and relax the midrange aggressiveness. The ALO modded set are slightly smoother throughout, but just a little. In either case, the main goal is accomplished - both versions sound excellent in this regard.

However, neither mod significantly improves the problem with the soundstage being shallow. Both improve it a little, and again the ALO maybe just slightly more, but for people who are ga-ga over soundstage depth, look elsewhere.

The ALO 780 also had slightly less lump bass response, I felt. this was still pretty subtle versus the S2 audio version, though.

So overall, in terms of JUST sonics, the ALO version is slightly better, IMO.

HOWEVER, there are some other factors. First, the ALO mod is more than 2x the price of the S2 mod. But more than that, the ALO modded cable is really badly microphonic. The S2 Audio cable is somewhat microphonic when it's rubbed or tapped, but the S2 cable isn't microphonic when one just turns one's head - the ALO cable is. With the ALO cable, you have to stay totally still, or you get loud microphonics. I found this troubling.

I also greatly prefer the single entry configuration of the S2 Audio recable, and I prefer the looks. That, and the price, make the S2 version much easier to recommend than the ALO version, IMHO, in spite of the ALO version offering very slightly better sound.
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