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post #31 of 57
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Originally Posted by dkpaul View Post
Get a good home amp to HD650.... You won't remember the HD595 any longer.
Can't get a home amp since I plan to on buying some IEMs. I was looking into the Pico actually. I wish there was a way I could try out the HD650 amped so I would know what it sounds like. Or, what if I sell the HD595 and just buy some IEMs instead and buy a portable amp. I was looking at the triple.fi 10 Pro.
post #32 of 57
If you don't like bass IMO you won't like the 650. It has too much bass with anything I've heard it with (all single-ended <$500 amps). As far as bass quantity goes IME 650>600>595(120 Ohm).

Ant
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by ab_ba View Post
Anyone able to offer impressions of how much difference a headphone amp makes for the 650's, vs the 595's?
The sky is the limit with the 650's..
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by Silwad View Post
Can't get a home amp since I plan to on buying some IEMs. I was looking into the Pico actually. I wish there was a way I could try out the HD650 amped so I would know what it sounds like. Or, what if I sell the HD595 and just buy some IEMs instead and buy a portable amp. I was looking at the triple.fi 10 Pro.
Hi Silwad,

I have Shure SE530 IEM's, amped through a Hornet. I just bought Senn 650's. I use the Hornet for listening to my ipod. I find the 650's a much nicer sound than the 530s (though the IEMs do have some advantages, like some details.)

If I were doing it again, I would probably get cheaper IEM's, just for running around with, and get those better headphones. The amp makes more of a difference with the 650's than with the 530's.

See this post for more description:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/pri...9/#post3709981

-Aaron
post #35 of 57
i have a set of the hd595 i think there great but there not as good as the 600's and i doubt they're better than the 650's. The 595's have a lot of bass and sound good, but when you hear them compared to a set of 600's they sound no where near as good! Im guessing the 650's would be the same.
post #36 of 57

Looking for a pair of Sennheiser's

Hi,

I'm new to this forum, and I'm also a new audiophile. I'm looking to purchase my first pair of headphones, and I need some advice. I don't have many music stores around my area I can go to demo some of the phones, but I was recommended to look at Sennheiser. I'm trying not to spend over $600. Here are my needs:

I plan to use the headphones to watch movies via my computer and TV. I have an older Yamaha receiver, I'm not sure of the model. However, on my PC I have an HT Omega 7.1 Clario Plus card. My music tastes are classic rock (Pink Floyd, Steve Miller Band, REO Speedwagon) and other various 80's rock, and some blues rock such as Blues Traveler. Most of the songs I own are at least 256kb/s encoded MP3's, a couple are in WAV, FLAC, and 320kb/s MP3's. Considering my music tastes, what would be the best Sennheiser's to purchase that would deliver the most realistic low's, mid's, and highs?


Thanks!

Sean
post #37 of 57
The 650 is a completely supperior headphone to the 595, if you need to save money buy the HD600, its stilll a lot better than the 595.
post #38 of 57
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Originally Posted by SteenWinther View Post
I used to be in heaven. Musical heaven that is. Blissful sound from HD595 directly from computer or from CD/DVD via Cute Battery amp. Very natural sound and a sound stage similar to opera nights in Sydney Opera.

Then evil reared its ugly head: I started wondering what could possibly be better? How would the next step up the Sennheiser chain - the mighty 650s - sound like?

So when I spotted the HD650s on offer from HeadRoom I grabbed them for not much more than I originally paid for HD595 here in Australia. GREAT.

BUT.... they don't sound good! Or more specific: they don't sound NATURAL to my ears. All the bells and whistles are there: extremely clear and smooth sound, deep powerful lows, effortless transients, lots of air, huge sound stage. But everything is disconnected and incoherent - too much air? - and there is an emphasis of the bass region, which makes voices boom and moves the deep strings way forward on the sound stage. I honestly feel that a double bass is in the seat next to me - removed from the rest of the orchestra - and that my ear membrane is flopping uncontrollably....! Surely, this is not high fidelity; it is impressive but unnatural and tiring?

SO, am I deaf? Should I get a better amp? Should I stick to the 595s? Should I get used to this sound because it is truly better? Should I only listen to electronic music?

Thoughts and comments, please?

Best regards,
Steen
I agree with you. Don't rush in an buy an amp as this will not change the signature of the 650's.

I have sampled 600's (sent them back) and I own some 595's. What you're saying about the 650's rings true with my experiences of the 600's. They just didn't sound anything like a live performance to me, the bass was more powerful that the 595's, the mids were thinner and almost plastic sounding and distant and the highs were smoother and probably more refined. The soundstage was bigger but strangely the whole listening experience I just found odd. The 600's may sound nice, detailed etc but they sound nothing like real life.

On the other hand, the 595's have the most natural sounding midrange I've heard to date (I haven't sampled every phone in the world BTW )

It is true to say that the 595 and 600's sound nothing like each other. Worlds apart.
post #39 of 57
To the OP, if you still can return them I would and just swap them for a HD600. It has a much more balanced sound and doesn't have all that bass. Plus I feel it is a little bit more detailed. The sound is a little bit more coherent as well.
post #40 of 57
Glad someone revived this old thread as I was just reading through it and marveling at the apparently contrary opinions. Most intriguing was ADDs condemnation of the 595 in favour of the 555, especially as we now know that they use the same driver and the only significant difference appears to be the "sound reflector"--a piece of thick foam behind the driver which could not possibly do anything good for the sound. I now have a 555 with the "reflector" mod and to me it sounds the same as the 595--that's to say, very good. I also have a 650, and though the latter may be technically more accurate, I cannot say that every CD sounds better on the 650--with some I prefer the 595. Personally I've always found this "The 600/650 are miles better that the 555/595!" stuff to be a load of old cobblers, and I can well understand the OP (who's probably now so old he can't hear anything!) preferring the 595 to the 650, especially if the 650 had less than a couple of hundred hours on it. I've always found the 555/595 to be way underappreciated in this forum, and always assumed it was because it does better with classical/orchestral music, which few here listen to. But in this thread we had a classical enthusiast--a violinist no less--condemning the 595 to Hades--really strange. I don't think ADD (I hope those initials don't mean what they commonly mean) visits this forum anymore, but if he happens to see this post I'd be interested to hear what his current position on this issue is.
post #41 of 57
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I've always found the 555/595 to be way underappreciated in this forum, and always assumed it was because it does better with classical/orchestral music, which few here listen to. But in this thread we had a classical enthusiast--a violinist no less--condemning the 595 to Hades--really strange
I'm a professional oboist,and I'd condemn the HD595 to Hades as well.I cannot say that they sound "bad",but the lack of clarity it's just appalling.I sold them and I bought a HD600,and boy I'm glad I did!
post #42 of 57
I hear distortion right in the mid-range on thr 595, the HD600 are only a few bucks more and 10x the headphone.
post #43 of 57
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Originally Posted by Chrysoberyl View Post
I'm a professional oboist,and I'd condemn the HD595 to Hades as well.I cannot say that they sound "bad",but the lack of clarity it's just appalling.I sold them and I bought a HD600,and boy I'm glad I did!

Now that's interesting, because I've owned two 600s at different times and sold them both as I found them too forward in the upper midrange, which made strings sound wiry. Obviousy what you're hearing in the 600s and like, I'm also hearing and don't like. Where you hear clarity, I'm hearing harshness.
My first criterion is that a phone not be harsh, that it be easy to listen to for long periods, and I find the 555/595 and 650 all meet this criterion, whatever else their failings. The 600s do not.
post #44 of 57
I own a modded HD 555 and tried an HD 595 for a good hour. I have to say that it's more detailed and has a more present bass, but I don't think it's that miles ahead of my HD 555. I noticed the highs to be a bit too harsh, and the soundstage is a bit narrow.

Lucky you guys even have HD 600's available in your country.
post #45 of 57
never had harsh highs from HD595 in my experience.
Can listen to them for hours without fatigue.

I recently auditioned some bookshelve speakers.
I found almost all of them harsh ( including wharfdale 9.1, 10.1, Mordaunt short, Mezzo ).I finally settled on tannoys.

I tell this to illustrate that I am quite sensitive to harsh highs & still don't find any such issue with HD595
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