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Accurate Rip tells me it's accurate, EAC tells me it's erronous.

post #1 of 12
1/14/08 at 4:19pm
Thread Starter 
Title says it all.

Accurate rip tells me that the entire rip was accurate. EAC tells me that all the tracks had errors.

However, CRC checks (copy and read) were the same, and proved to be correct.

What gives?
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post #2 of 12
1/14/08 at 4:34pm
From the EAC FAQ

Quote:
What does the Track Quality really mean? A few times I get 99.7% or 97.5%. But there are no suspicious position reported.

When you get 99.7% and so on, that means that a bad sector was found, but the secure mode has corrected it - from 16 times of grabbing the sector, there were 8 or more identical results. So it only indicates read problems. It is the ratio between the number of minimum reads needed to perform the extraction and the number of reads that were actually performed. 100% will only occur when the CD was extracted without any rereads on errors. ONLY when there are suspicious positions reported, there are really uncorrectable read errors in the resulting audio file.
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post #3 of 12
1/14/08 at 4:52pm
Thread Starter 
This has nothing to do with track quality because I'm getting 100% on the tracks that present with errors.

I re-ripped. Accurate rip still tells me I have an accurate rip, and EAC tells me that errors have occured on the tracks.

CRC checks out to be fine, still.
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post #4 of 12
1/14/08 at 5:05pm
what CD?
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post #5 of 12
1/14/08 at 8:20pm
Thread Starter 
So far,

Depeche Mode - Violator 2006 Remaster

Norah Jones - Not Too Late

Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain

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post #6 of 12
1/14/08 at 11:04pm
Ignore me, I misread your OP.

Can you post a sample log?
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post #7 of 12
1/14/08 at 11:09pm
i bought clapton unplugged. it was brand new. every time i ripped it using accuraterip it gave me errors for every track. people told me b/c the cd was not that new in terms of its release my pressing was probably different from other ones and thus different from other users who had submitted their rips to accuraterip.
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post #8 of 12
1/15/08 at 6:04am
Thread Starter 
Yeap yeap.

You are misreading me. Accurate rip tells me it's accurate. EAC tells me that errors present.

However, CRC checks out to be fine.

I'm using AutoFLAC with EAC, and instead of doing the whole album at once, I go multiple individual tracks, and it seems to sort out that error message with these few CDs.

The log is quite long to post, but yeah sure.. :

Code:
EAC extraction logfile from 14. January 2008, 19:03
Miles Davis / Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)

Used drive  : _NEC    DVD+-RW ND-6650A   Adapter: 1  ID: 0
Read modeSecure with NO C2, accurate stream, NO disable cache
Combined read/write offset correction0
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output formatE:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\flac.exe   (User Defined Encoder)
                     128 kBit/s
                     Additional command line options--best -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" %s

Other options      : 
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
    Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000


Track  1
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\01-Concierto De Aranjuez (Adagio).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 88.8 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 191128B0
     Copy CRC 191128B0
     Copy OK

Track  2
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\02-Will O' The Wisp.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:03.73

     Peak level 60.1 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 265D874C
     Copy CRC 265D874C
     Copy OK

Track  3
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\03-The Pan Piper.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:01.44

     Peak level 75.4 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC B7B20CAD
     Copy CRC B7B20CAD
     Copy OK

Track  4
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\04-Saeta.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.09

     Peak level 68.2 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC D62B182C
     Copy CRC D62B182C
     Copy OK

Track  5
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\05-Solea.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:01.97

     Peak level 74.1 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 9200D0BF
     Copy CRC 9200D0BF
     Copy OK

Track  6
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\06-Song Of Our Country (bonus track).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:05.20

     Peak level 72.4 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC F359CE19
     Copy CRC F359CE19
     Copy OK

Track  7
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\07-Concierto De Aranjuez (Part One; bonus track).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:04.97

     Peak level 62.1 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC DB01214D
     Copy CRC DB01214D
     Copy OK

Track  8
     Filename H:\Miles Davis\Sketches Of Spain (Remastered)\08-Concierto De Aranjuez (Part Two Ending; bonus track).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.73

     File write error
     Peak level 46.4 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC CD837A31
     Copy CRC CD837A31
     Copy OK

There were errors


End of status report

TrackRipping Status[Disc ID: 00143a79-780e3c08]

 1Accurately Ripped    (confidence 6)     [6876ce81]
 2Accurately Ripped    (confidence 6)     [ef388025]
 3Accurately Ripped    (confidence 6)     [3219938a]
 4Accurately Ripped    (confidence 6)     [c5d050c4]
 5Accurately Ripped    (confidence 5)     [d92caa74]
 6Accurately Ripped    (confidence 5)     [b7cf95fc]
 7Accurately Ripped    (confidence 5)     [1f3d6d61]
 8Accurately Ripped    (confidence 6)     [6b251d45]

_______________________

All Tracks Accurately Ripped.
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post #9 of 12
1/15/08 at 6:24am
From that log, the only error you're getting is when the drive reads into the lead-out at the very end of the CD. That's fine. Many drives can't do this. You can uncheck the relevant option in EAC or just leave it as is and ignore the error.
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post #10 of 12
1/15/08 at 7:27am
Quote:
Originally Posted by mofonyx View Post
This has nothing to do with track quality because I'm getting 100% on the tracks that present with errors.
Based on the log you posted, tracks 2 and 8 had a quality of less than 100%, which is part of why EAC reports that there were errors. (See the FAQ I posted.) Wodgy's post explains the rest.
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post #11 of 12
1/15/08 at 9:53am
what about the
Quote:
File write error
that shows up for Track 8 in the EAC log?
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post #12 of 12
1/15/08 at 1:40pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wodgy View Post
From that log, the only error you're getting is when the drive reads into the lead-out at the very end of the CD. That's fine. Many drives can't do this. You can uncheck the relevant option in EAC or just leave it as is and ignore the error.

Oooh, which is why I'm getting an error only if I rip "entire CD" instead of "single tracks" at a time.

Thanks.

LostOne.TR : I fixed that error by re-ripping, by the way
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