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AmpOhm Polyester In Oil Aluminum Foil Capacitor



It’s always very interesting to compare two essentially identical capacitors that have but one difference. In this case, one is comparing oil-impregnated polyester vs. dry polyester used as dielectric. The dry polyester film AmpOhm, as noted previously, is a very clear, detailed, and “present” capacitor, especially in the midrange; it will light a fire under dull, grey harmonics and shine a floodlight on lifeless contrasts. While quite appealing for good recordings played through meticulate systems, poor digital recordings tend to fare much worse.

The oil-impregnated version does some interesting things. It shaves off just a hair of gruff hardness to turn poor recordings just a bit more palatable while pushing out an ounce more girth and roundness. Recordings and passages that have that “ringing” or resonant quality are turned a little gentler and calmer. Normally, such changes would mean a warmer yet lower-resolution and slower sound signature; however, since the dry polyester capacitor has so much resolution and speed to burn, the oil version still sounds plenty detailed and fast despite a little enriching of the sonic tapestry. There’s no clear “better” or “worse” here, as I can imagine different people preferring one or the other depending on one’s tastes and how the system is voiced. At any rate, polyester film and polyester-in-oil capacitors represent a fascinating genre of capacitors, one that has the potential to offer superior sound quality to garden-variety polypropylene capacitors out there at comparable prices.
post #242 of 326
very impreesive sir, i wich i had your half your knowledge and expertise.

do ou make any custom cables?

do u think tubes sound better on denon 7000 as some say they are no made for tubes,

and i prefer vinyl on tubes? how do you compare the signature difference between theem for vinyl
post #243 of 326
I have a stupid question...how do you bypass a cap with another cap? Is it simply soldering a smaller cap to the leads of a larger cap?
post #244 of 326
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Originally Posted by ecclesand View Post
I have a stupid question...how do you bypass a cap with another cap? Is it simply soldering a smaller cap to the leads of a larger cap?
Well, that will technically work, but in practice, you may find it difficult to solder one cap's leadout wire to another cap's leadout and make a secure, clean connection. Usually takes lots of solder (bad) and likely will need to bend the lead to hook around the other lead, etc. I usually tend to solder both caps' lead to the same tab/tube pin, etc.
post #245 of 326
If it is on a pcb then the easiest thing to do is solder the bypassing cap on the underside of the board.
post #246 of 326
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Well, that will technically work, but in practice, you may find it difficult to solder one cap's leadout wire to another cap's leadout and make a secure, clean connection. Usually takes lots of solder (bad) and likely will need to bend the lead to hook around the other lead, etc. I usually tend to solder both caps' lead to the same tab/tube pin, etc.
Ah...I see. I'm using a pair of 2.7uF (or 3uF) capacitors (tried Auricaps and am currently using some Sonicaps Gen 1) as a passive output in my Lite DAC-AH and wanted to try some teflons, but they are way to expensive at that size. I read your review on the AudioCap Thetas bypassed with some Russian teflons and wanted to give that a try. Thanks for the info!
post #247 of 326
Anyone have thought on Modwright Caps? Thanks a lot!
post #248 of 326
Any love?
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Will be having a pair of JUPITER 2.2uf / 600V in my MHDT Labs Havana soon... Hope it will sound good.
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The order for JUPITER 2.2uf / 600V didn't materialized, a pair or V-Cap OIMP 2.0uf / 250V in order instead. ETA in week...
post #251 of 326
This thread has been very informative so I thank you, Jon L for that.

I have a question though... do any of you here have experience using VCap TFTF in a bass boost circuit? I'm currently using a Soshin PIO but I could use a little bit more transparency in my DIY amp so I thought that the TFTF would be very suitable. Alternatively, the K75/VCap bypass also looks mighty interesting so I *COULD* try that but I don't know whether it's worth it for a bass boos circuit or not.
post #252 of 326
I have and I wouldnt recommend it so much, while TFTF caps have good bass extension, I wouldnt say they have the best bass texture or weight, I would recommend a copper foil cap or perhaps mundorf SIO instead if you wanna go all the way. I tried a TFTF VCAp in the bass boost on my ibasso FiQuest just the other day and while it worked rather well, I tested my Duelund copper foil in there and it wiped the floor with it, my mundorf SIO sounded great too. obviously i'm not actually using the duelund in the FiQuest, but I was just seeing how much different caps made a difference in this circuit, I ordered some silver mica for the actual job. I wish there was some copper foil caps small enough
post #253 of 326
Which model of Duelund copper foil is that, qusp? I've been browsing their site and good lord, it looks so humongous that I doubt that it will fit inside the casing.
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I replaced a pair of Clarity Cap ESA with Jensen Aluminim/oil, this was a serious degrade in sound. Like a blanket was put up between me and the music. I bought the Jensens because they were the smalles .22uf oil cap on the market, its ashame they don't sound good. They are also as light as a feather compared to other oil caps of the same size.
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After the Jenson .22uF's I switched to .22uF JY40's, these were an improvement but the midrange was not as nice as the Clarity caps.

Now I have the AmpOhm Copper P-I-O .22uF's, these are big and I had to raise my PCB and give up the flexibility to ever use an adapter for 7n7's tubes due to their circumfiance. But these caps are fantastic they have all the good qualities of the Clarity caps but much better, deeper, natural bass. If it weren't for this wonderful thread I would have never heard of them, they are truly fantastic caps.
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