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post #31 of 89
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Originally Posted by TheAnomaly View Post
i thought one of the major tenets of objectivity is to maintain an open mind.
There is certainly a limit though. Concepts that fail the most basic of logic don't really belong.
post #32 of 89
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Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 View Post
Tell me exactly how a sine sweep is supposed to "clear up" magnetism. Or how I can even measure the supposed effects. Thats right, pretty much all these gimmicky products rely on their results being immeasurable.
Inmesurable? I do not think so, they are nonexistent that is different...And they rely in the naive guys who purchased them relying on their names, andbeleiving that they will get any benefit...

And unfortunatelly for the opposed field, I do have tried them, and I have them here, and all of them are IMO snake oil, they do absolutelly nothing, period... But also IMHO you do not need to even try them to arrive to such conclussions, OK?

I will send all of all those CDs to the OP, about five in total, CDs that were released by different companies, Sheffield Labs, Cardas, Densen, Ayre, MCM, Wireworld, etc...I got them as gifts from my friends, they believe that all what says "audiophile" on the label, is relevant to me...LOL...And he could said here later on what kind of differences or improvements those will do in his system...
post #33 of 89
Thanks for backing me up Sovkiller, now I regret buying it...even if it was to prove a point.
post #34 of 89
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Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 View Post
Thanks for backing me up Sovkiller, now I regret buying it...even if it was to prove a point.
Some of them have tones that are useful for testing purposes, and setting equipment, etc...Pink noise is useful for tunning home listening rooms, theaters etc...but other than that...a total scam to my ears...
post #35 of 89
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Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 View Post
I was never arguing against the noise tracks, I was focused entirely on the "demagnetization" tracks. When a product claims to do the impossible, you don't need to purchase and test it yourself to know that it will not change anything. This is one of this forums greatest faults, being almost entirely subjective and supporting fairy-tale claims of people hearing what cannot be heard. The outright banning of DBT pretty much sums up the forum's inefficacies as far as amplification, so-called "tweaks", and cables go, as well as being the nail in the coffin for anyone trying to argue objectivity. This forum still rocks for headphones though!

I don't think George Cardas himself is snake oil, he seems affable enough; however, I think the whimsical products he peddles certainly are. Alas, I have bought this CD, though I doubt I will be proved otherwise.
I did not see in the op's title "CARDAS - AYRE ACOUSTICS (IBE) BURN-IN CD... Has anyone tried this??? where he was looking for an argument, I don't see anyone else arguing, seems to me you are looking for an argument for the sake of arguing. Or are you simply looking for attention?

"When a product claims to do the impossible, you don't need to purchase and test it yourself to know that it will not change anything." So what do you hope to achieve with your purchase of this disc, do you not even take or listen to your own advise???

Where in this thread has anyone made fairy-tale claims about what they heard or didn't hear with this disc? All I see are claims from a nay-sayer who has zero experience with the mentioned product. No one as yet has said they have or use the disc

The forum's inefficacies, in my opinion, are people who jump in and assert their unexperienced views (which it seems they don't even follow themselves) where ever and when ever they can, thus making people who have experience and do know what they are talking about not post their experiences
post #36 of 89
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Originally Posted by 883dave View Post
If what he says about Cardas is true, wouldn't George think he is Gullible?
assuming he did actually purchase the disc
ol' george is laughing his butt off, I'm certain, all while rolling in giant piles of money! He's a clever scam artist, he even got the most die-hard objectivist to fall prey to his evil ploy! The horror! It's like we're slipping into the dark ages!
post #37 of 89
Read Sovkiller's post to see how wrong you are.

I took the OP as someone who was looking to buy the product, so I provided him with a reason why he should stay away from it and similar products.
post #38 of 89
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Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 View Post
I took the OP as someone who was looking to buy the product...
Me too, so I offered him the chance to try them free of charge, as well as I did...they will be on the way on Monday, he could choose to post his findings later on, or not...I already packed them
post #39 of 89
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Originally Posted by yotacowboy View Post
ol' george is laughing his butt off, I'm certain, all while rolling in giant piles of money! He's a clever scam artist, he even got the most die-hard objectivist to fall prey to his evil ploy! The horror! It's like we're slipping into the dark ages!
Do you even read half the posts I made? I never, I repeat, NEVER, made any insinuation that George Cardas is a scam artist. He obviously believes in his products. I also bought the CD to definitively prove that the product he created does nothing, even though he thinks it does (he can't prove himself otherwise because he doesn't even know how the product works himself). Make sense now?
post #40 of 89
To all who say we need to try something for ourselves...what about gas additives?

Sure, there have been tests in which they were disproved, but the cars they tested them in didn't cost enough!

We should all try the gas additives for ourselves before we call them snake oil!

Did I sum up your realm of thinking correctly?
post #41 of 89
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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu View Post
To all who say we need to try something for ourselves...what about gas additives?

Sure, there have been tests in which they were disproved, but the cars they tested them in didn't cost enough!

We should all try the gas additives for ourselves before we call them snake oil!

Did I sum up your realm of thinking correctly?

What have you been smoking? What are you talking about????

The question was "CARDAS - AYRE ACOUSTICS (IBE) BURN-IN CD... Has anyone tried this"
The only one who has answered is Sovkiller.

What does this have to do with gas additives and cheap or expensive cars???
post #42 of 89
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Originally Posted by Todd R View Post
And here we go again....
Another inexperienced kid telling us how things he's never tried can't work.

I'm so tired of people like you trashing threads, and I can't believe you've called Cardas a "pseudo-science and gimmicks company".
Nothing could be further from the truth and it shows exactly how much you DON'T KNOW!


Congratulations punk, you just made the list.
I think this is my favorite part...
post #43 of 89
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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu View Post
To all who say we need to try something for ourselves...what about gas additives?

Sure, there have been tests in which they were disproved, but the cars they tested them in didn't cost enough!

We should all try the gas additives for ourselves before we call them snake oil!

Did I sum up your realm of thinking correctly?

Some gas and oil additives work, and some of those CD tracks are useful, but in the case than gas additives were also an scam, two wrongs do not make a right...
post #44 of 89
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Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 View Post
Do you even read half the posts I made?
Nope!

Should I?

I've already come to the conclusion that you're going to post the same tired diatribe, no matter the topic, no matter the technology or gear in question. Am I wrong? Do you ever change your position?
post #45 of 89
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Originally Posted by Sovkiller View Post
Some gas and oil additives work, and some of those CD tracks are useful, but in the case than gas additives were also an scam, two wrongs do not make a right...
AFAIK, there are no gas additives that make you get more MPG or make your car run cleaner. In fact, they make it appear as if your car has worse MPG, as they displace potential gasoline, but your car would assume that additive was gas...I think you get where I'm going.
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